would you drive on these tires?
Feb 11, 2009, 05:31 PM
#17
i just dont understand why people are like that
here is the thread
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...enis-615s.html
also claims almost full tread but they are more like 60-70% at most. which i can deal with cause i know they are used. But a giant gouge is a whole different deal
here is the thread
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...enis-615s.html
also claims almost full tread but they are more like 60-70% at most. which i can deal with cause i know they are used. But a giant gouge is a whole different deal
Feb 11, 2009, 09:05 PM
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wow . here are his emails
i drove on them and had no problems.i took the best pics i could.sorry but i dont know what i can do for you.you bought the wheels and tires for the tires and i assume you are going to sell the wheels. 550.00 for the wheels and tires and you sell the rims for 200.00 which is a rediculously lowball price even for track rims .so you have 350.00 tied up in 4 almost new tires that the absolute cheapest you can get is 115.00 each plus 15.00 shipping so 130.00 each x 4 equal 520.00 and you have a little more than that in the tires and rims.so you sell the rims and have 350.00 in tires that cost 520.00 so lets say one is no good (which is not the case but saying from your perspective is no good) take 130.00 from the 520.00 that leaves 380.00 if you bought 3 tires that 390.00 you still come out cheaper.i dont feel any obligation here.you are talking about a purely cosmetic defect.those tires have seen 155mph sustained with no loss in performance.please respond only if there is a problem with the integrity of the product i sold.thanks,keith
after that
This is hard to say without sounding rude but you would have to be ignorant of tire tread depths to say the tires i sold you had only 60% tread left. A tire comes new with 10/32nds tread depth, the azenis 615s come new with 8/32nds tread depth. I am certain the tires have 6 to 7/32nds tread depth which is well over 60%. The blemish is merely supperficial as stated and the reference to sustained high speed without a blowout or any noted dificulty was made to evidence the fact that the blemish is purely cosmetic. I made every effort to take extra pictures for you if you recall.i am insulted that you think the tires only have 60% tread on them and that only 2 are usable if that wasnt enough you state you need to get full set because you shouldnt run different tread depths on an awd car.look i a 39 years old and have owned numerous cars awd,fwd,rwd and 4wd if you count suvs. I am not an idiot and what you are saying would be suggesting otherwise. You bough a used product,if you wanted new you should have purchased new.i feel no obligation legal or otherwise to discuss this further.i am not willing to purchase you any new tires or refund any monies.i am very sorry that you have found this transaction unsatisfactory but i am of the oppinion you got a more than fair product per dollar value. If you are still displeased with the wheel tire set you should relist them. Their were others interested them.sincerely,keith
yes in this thread of him selling them. they are 60%
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...eels-sale.html
i drove on them and had no problems.i took the best pics i could.sorry but i dont know what i can do for you.you bought the wheels and tires for the tires and i assume you are going to sell the wheels. 550.00 for the wheels and tires and you sell the rims for 200.00 which is a rediculously lowball price even for track rims .so you have 350.00 tied up in 4 almost new tires that the absolute cheapest you can get is 115.00 each plus 15.00 shipping so 130.00 each x 4 equal 520.00 and you have a little more than that in the tires and rims.so you sell the rims and have 350.00 in tires that cost 520.00 so lets say one is no good (which is not the case but saying from your perspective is no good) take 130.00 from the 520.00 that leaves 380.00 if you bought 3 tires that 390.00 you still come out cheaper.i dont feel any obligation here.you are talking about a purely cosmetic defect.those tires have seen 155mph sustained with no loss in performance.please respond only if there is a problem with the integrity of the product i sold.thanks,keith
after that
This is hard to say without sounding rude but you would have to be ignorant of tire tread depths to say the tires i sold you had only 60% tread left. A tire comes new with 10/32nds tread depth, the azenis 615s come new with 8/32nds tread depth. I am certain the tires have 6 to 7/32nds tread depth which is well over 60%. The blemish is merely supperficial as stated and the reference to sustained high speed without a blowout or any noted dificulty was made to evidence the fact that the blemish is purely cosmetic. I made every effort to take extra pictures for you if you recall.i am insulted that you think the tires only have 60% tread on them and that only 2 are usable if that wasnt enough you state you need to get full set because you shouldnt run different tread depths on an awd car.look i a 39 years old and have owned numerous cars awd,fwd,rwd and 4wd if you count suvs. I am not an idiot and what you are saying would be suggesting otherwise. You bough a used product,if you wanted new you should have purchased new.i feel no obligation legal or otherwise to discuss this further.i am not willing to purchase you any new tires or refund any monies.i am very sorry that you have found this transaction unsatisfactory but i am of the oppinion you got a more than fair product per dollar value. If you are still displeased with the wheel tire set you should relist them. Their were others interested them.sincerely,keith
yes in this thread of him selling them. they are 60%
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...eels-sale.html
Feb 11, 2009, 09:16 PM
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what a douche, put a claim, escalate it then show paypal the pics of that crap he sent you... he has got no class.... i hope he treats his next set of tires like that, and then they blow up on his face....
Feb 12, 2009, 05:49 AM
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In the third picture in the for sale link you posted, you can clearly see the gouge in the sidewall. I think you're SOL on this one. Take it as an expensive lesson learned.
Feb 12, 2009, 06:09 AM
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Whenever I buy a used product, I always ask myself. Why is the seller getting rid of these if they are so great. Generally I ask the seller, and alot can be learned from their response even if they lie.
Feb 12, 2009, 06:33 AM
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be careful you dont want to make the mistake of calling him an idiot. He has owned awd,fwd,rwd and 4wd CARS!!! ( i thought that was a curious argument to make )
Hope you get your money back.
Now, since the damage is clearly visible in the picture and the sellers language blatantly makes the tires sound new, could that be grounds for a ban from the marketplace forums? Any moderators around?
Hope you get your money back.
Now, since the damage is clearly visible in the picture and the sellers language blatantly makes the tires sound new, could that be grounds for a ban from the marketplace forums? Any moderators around?
Feb 12, 2009, 06:53 AM
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what a di*^. I would say forget it and stop tryin to work with him and just file a paypal claim. regardless of what happens this guy wont sell much if anyone looks into his username. I just find this completely dishonest and disrespectful.(its a safety hazard) I just sold a pair of tires on the forums and would never misrepresent them like this guy did. gl with the problem, hopefully you get this resolved and this guy gets banned.
