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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Ohlins coilover nightmare install.... need HELP!

Ok..... I spend all this money on Ohlins coilovers/hypercoil springs 600lb rear 500lb front and i have groundcontrol camber plates. This was sold to me as a package so I trusted this would all work together.

Problem #1 Camber plates wont fit the Ohlins without machining parts and modifying. My car has been at the shop for 24 hours while the guys try and modify the camber plates....... costing more $$$$$ every hour!

Problem #2 The guy at the shop is telling me my ride hight is going to be an inch OVER STOCK with the perches all the way down? WTF? The guy says with the heavy springs in the back its going to be higher....

Does anything know what is going wrong or what i should do? Has anyone had these type problems matching camberplates with Ohlins? I cant imagine spending this much on a suspension and not having it install correctly. If anyone can help it would be great!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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What series of ohlins are they? I have a hard time believing ride height will be higher than stock. It sounds to me like the shop doesn't know what they are doing. Not sure with your camber plates but, It should be a straight remove and reinstall job.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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stupid question but your ohlins are made for the Evo 8 correct? I dont think it should be that off.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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Send OGVW a PM. He used to sell them and has a lot of experience with the Ohlins.

He might be able to help.

Good luck,
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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thanks guys... i got the Ohlins from forcefed.

http://www.forcedfed.com/evo/coilovers/ohlins.html

They are the same ones as the project EVOM evo. Groundcontrol even said to modify the plates to fit. I cant believe how crazy this has been... ill try to ask OGVW
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Have you called Forcedfed?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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I just installed my ohlins this past weekend and it went very smoothly. I used Works camber plates however. also, what are the free lengths of the rear springs? since you have custom springs rates I assume they are from eibach, hypercoil, etc, so they should be available in custom lengths. You need a 8" tall rear spring, to be a able to lower the rear of the car. I have a 8" spring and my car is is only .25" lower than stock in the rear, BUT that is with the perchess set that i maintain maximum wheel travel. If you you lower the perches in relation to the shock body you can lower the car futher (i plan on going a little lower). hope this helps.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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I just installed my ohlins this past weekend and it went very smoothly. I used Works camber plates however. also, what are the free lengths of the rear springs? since you have custom springs rates I assume they are from eibach, hypercoil, etc, so they should be available in custom lengths. You need a 8" tall rear spring, to be a able to lower the rear of the car. I have a 8" spring and my car is is only .25" lower than stock in the rear, BUT that is with the perchess set that i maintain maximum wheel travel. If you you lower the perches in relation to the shock body you can lower the car futher (i plan on going a little lower). hope this helps.
I forgot to mention that my front springs are 10" free length. this gave me a 1.25" drop in the front with the perches set for max travel.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 'ringmeister
I just installed my ohlins this past weekend and it went very smoothly. I used Works camber plates however. also, what are the free lengths of the rear springs? since you have custom springs rates I assume they are from eibach, hypercoil, etc, so they should be available in custom lengths. You need a 8" tall rear spring, to be a able to lower the rear of the car. I have a 8" spring and my car is is only .25" lower than stock in the rear, BUT that is with the perchess set that i maintain maximum wheel travel. If you you lower the perches in relation to the shock body you can lower the car futher (i plan on going a little lower). hope this helps.
Yeah this helps alot.... i think they sold me 10 inch springs. did you get them installed at Euro tire? thats where im getting it done. I should have gotten works camber plates. I hear they are good..
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Yeah this helps alot.... i think they sold me 10 inch springs. did you get them installed at Euro tire? thats where im getting it done. I should have gotten works camber plates. I hear they are good..
nope, did it my self, but i am going to eurotire on mon for alignment. how was eurotire to work with under the circumstances?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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nope, did it my self, but i am going to eurotire on mon for alignment. how was eurotire to work with under the circumstances?
HAHA thats a good question.... they seem like a very professional shop. But the owner keeps telling me he doesnt have time for me and he has too many 911's coming in he has to work on. Like the 911 turbo's are more importaint. But the way i see it... i'm paying him the same $. I must say they have been very good with finding ways to make my install work.... but I'll let you know once i get the bill $$$$
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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HAHA thats a good question.... they seem like a very professional shop. But the owner keeps telling me he doesnt have time for me and he has too many 911's coming in he has to work on. Like the 911 turbo's are more importaint. But the way i see it... i'm paying him the same $. I must say they have been very good with finding ways to make my install work.... but I'll let you know once i get the bill $$$$
911 are important; it is important that they give me prompt pass signals at the track.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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I don't understand what you guys mean by "set up for max travel"

If you have a 10" spring with the perch screwed down 2 inches from the top or an 8" spring with the perch at maximum height, you still have the same travel. Travel is determined by the available shock stroke which is in turn determined by your ride height which is directly related to the distance from the LCA to the shock tower. FWIW the taller spring with a lower perch height might actually result in MORE travel since it takes more distance to fully compress the spring and bottom out the coils.

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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911 are important; it is important that they give me prompt pass signals at the track.
LOL thats great!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
I don't understand what you guys mean by "set up for max travel"

If you have a 10" spring with the perch screwed down 2 inches from the top or an 8" spring with the perch at maximum height, you still have the same travel. Travel is determined by the available shock stroke which is in turn determined by your ride height which is directly related to the distance from the LCA to the shock tower. FWIW the taller spring with a lower perch height might actually result in MORE travel since it takes more distance to fully compress the spring and bottom out the coils.

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Actually the springs free height has nothing to do with travel. A 500 lb/in spring will compress the same amount whether it is 8" free height or 10" free height. A 500 lb load will compress both springs one inch. You use the free height to get the car to sit at the desired ride height once the weight of the vehicle is applied. I am running 750 front and 700 rear springs, and 8" free heights will work with both front and rear. I would imagine that you could run into problems with a 10" free height high rate spring not being able to get to a desired lowered ride height. Just my 2 cents.
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