Hi all,

I am on the edge of buying an RS, driving it for the further 6 months i will staying here adn then getting it back home to germany as my, what we call ring tool. (a road legal racer to be used on the Nuerburgring Nordschleife)

...so here is my question, having gone around the ring in mumerous cars... ... i really like a decent ABS.
Can it done with the RS?
If so, has it been done?
What are the cost?
Take the original mitsu system or are there aftermarket options?

Thanks guys.

 

I'll try to help. If you really want/need ABS, why not buy the Evo GSR? Fitting ABS to a car that did not have it to begin with is very difficult. The GSR is only a little bit more expensive than the RS and it would be much easier to strip out the GSR than upgrade the RS with ABS.

To modify a GSR to RS standards you would have to perform the following:

-Remove power windows
-Remove power mirrors
-Remove sound deadening
-Remove rear trunk trim
-Remove keyless entry system
-Remove center console armrest
-Remove vanity mirrors
-Remove ignition illumination ring
-Remove rear spoiler
-Remove audio system
-Add reinforcement beam in the rear of the trunk

You would still not have the aluminum roof on your GSR, but that should make a relatively small difference.

Hope that helps.

Joe
www.joe250.com

 

hmmm. already was afriad of an answer like that. i really dont wanna do it again. Have done it once, dont really wanna go thru that again.....


..so maybe an MR instead? but then again thats 7k more....

besides, where do i get a new GSR?????

 

Im curious as to why you want ABS for a track car? Most hardcore track junkies hate ABS. Some will pull the ABS fuse for track days if their car comes equipped with it.

 

The GSR is not a model designation used officially here in the USA, at least not publicly:

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/j...jsp?t=overview

People just use it to distinguish easily between the RS, MR, and 'regular' versions of the car.

Sounds like the easiest thing to do is to buy and RS and live without ABS. However, if you feel ABS is a necessity, the GSR is the cheapest US-sold version available with it. Stripping it out shouldn't be too much work. In fact, most of the items I listed above will not drop significant amounts of weight out of the car. Leave all that stuff in and instead install a lightweight battery, remove the A/C system, and go aftermarket on the exhaust. Probably the biggest bang, weight-savings-wise, for the least amount of trouble and money.

Just my 2 cents.

Joe
www.joe250.com

 

Nice looking Turbo Brick. http://www.turbobricks.org/feature.p...tent=spring_05

The lack of ABS is really not a problem, you just need to practice threshold braking a little bit.

 

its more fun to drive without all the electronic gidgets...

n

 

Do I understand you correctly that you will be buying the car in GERMANY?

If so, AFAIK, JDM (i.e. import) Evo 9s are out of production from Japan.

If not, you may want to consider Evo 9 GT. It's the preferred choice for trackies who aren't really looking forward to the whole RS experience.

 

thanks for all the replies.
No, i will purchase the car here in Boston dirve it 6 months and then take it back home.

And, after making making up my mind, i am a sissy. i am going w/o ABS.
The only that really bothers me is that artice i read, where the trackteste GSA vs. MR vs RS and the RS finished last. Can anybody tell me why that was?

Also i am looking for the lightest rims in perfect size. Any suggestions on a good combo?

 

The RS finished last due to a lack of downforce (big wing), or so they thought in the article. You can get the wing put on at the factory if you wish. If I may make a reccomendation, check out Herb Connolly Mitsubishi in Natick, MA. I dealt with them and they are top notch. Also Grava Mitsubishi has gotten good reviews.

Good choice going with the RS. You will like it.

If you want a light wheel, check out the Volk line from Rays Engineering http://www.rayswheels.co.jp They have forged monoblock wheels which are very light. If you need some help, I am in the area. Let me know.

 

Good advice, also try Lovering Mitsubishi in Concord N.H. Its about 90 min north of Boston but they always seem to have a couple RS's in stock.

 

Why was the RS last? I would agree that the wing would provide some benefit, but I would not be surprised if some of the difference comes from a lack of ABS and EBD on the RS model. Here's what Mitsu has to say about EBD:

"Further, the Lancer Evolution IX and MR feature one of the most sophisticated anti-lock braking systems on the planet. We call it Mitsubishi Sports ABS, because it was refined to meet the specifications of the world's most demanding motor sports: the FIA World Rally Championship. It uses four-wheel independent control to optimize the brake force at each wheel, helping to achieve a precise balance of braking force and braking stability. G-force sensors feed info to the electronic control unit that assigns brake force with instant, precise modulation. Then braking forces are distributed electronically. The Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) works like this: Rear brake power is electronically controlled to match load conditions and to ensure optimal distribution of braking force between the front and rear brakes. Say you're braking hard. As the car’s weight shifts to the front, EBD helps make effective use of the rear wheel braking, even as the rear end lightens. And say you're turning. The EBD's independent control of the left and right rear brakes when braking during cornering helps maintain a balance of improved vehicle stability and braking force."

From: http://www.mitsubishicars.com/lancer...on/safety.html

Being able to fully maximize your braking potential should make a difference on the track. And considering this system doesn't just optimize front/rear distribution in real-time, but each wheel seperately, leads me to believe that an EBD-equipped car should have a significant advantage over one without it.

If you are buying this car to drive almost exclusively at the 'Ring, want to set the best lap times possible, give yourself an extra measure of safety, and especially if you plan on driving on-track while it's wet/raining, I would highly suggest you purchase an ABS-equipped Evo.

Just my opinion, though.

Joe
www.joe250.com

 

Track junkies don't like ABS? ...maybe if the rules don't allow it.

 

i think buschur and robi showed that abs is at least a good option to have as an option.

when did the rs come with an al roof?

 

Buddy Club P1 QF. Lighter than any Volk rims (with exception of the forged magnesium).