19x10's with 22mm Offset??
Sure they'll fit....but....
they will hang outside your fenders and rub like crazy with the proper width tire on them.
the offsets/width combo is too aggressive 4 the evo.
get a widebody kit and they'll fit no prob.
they will hang outside your fenders and rub like crazy with the proper width tire on them.
the offsets/width combo is too aggressive 4 the evo.
get a widebody kit and they'll fit no prob.
Originally Posted by vtsnake
wrong... that'll make them hang out past the fenders worse
Originally Posted by EVOfunk
I'm not wrong. Bottom line is, with a 22mm offset, the wheels will not be able to clear the break calipers. Anything under 35mm requires the use of wheel spacers.
Youre thinking backwards or opposite...
also the offset does not have anything to do with caliper clearance. the design of the mounting pad (whether its a High pad or not) and the spoke design do. For example Enkeis RPF1 in a 17x9 with a 35mm offset will NOT clear the brakes vs the same wheel in a 17x8.5 (same offset) will. It's all in the design of the wheel. Yes sometimes the offset will have an affect of how "thick" the mounting pad is but that is dependent on how the wheel is designed. But again you are thinking backwards how the offset "numbers" work. Most people do.
Let me put it this way, keeping the widths the same, if you have a 35mm offset wheel vs a 45mm offset wheel, the 45 will sit inboard more by 10mm under the fenders or 10mm closer to the struts. If thats confusing, if you take a 10mm SPACER and install it with a 35mm offset wheel, this will make the wheel essentially a 25mm offset NOT 45mm. It's hard for me to explain but if you go to tirerack.com i'm sure there is a section explaining how offsets work.
BTW, i'm not out to make you look bad, i just want the correct info out there. Sorry.
edit: go here and it'll explain offsets with pictures... http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Last edited by vtsnake; Nov 26, 2005 at 01:31 AM.
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Nonsense.
Higher offset = higher distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
Lower offset = lower distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
No hard feelings.
Higher offset = higher distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
Lower offset = lower distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
No hard feelings.
Originally Posted by vtsnake
Youre thinking backwards or opposite...
also the offset does not have anything to do with caliper clearance. the design of the mounting pad (whether its a High pad or not) and the spoke design do. For example Enkeis RPF1 in a 17x9 with a 35mm offset will NOT clear the brakes vs the same wheel in a 17x8.5 (same offset) will. It's all in the design of the wheel. Yes sometimes the offset will have an affect of how "thick" the mounting pad is but that is dependent on how the wheel is designed. But again you are thinking backwards how the offset "numbers" work. Most people do.
Let me put it this way, keeping the widths the same, if you have a 35mm offset wheel vs a 45mm offset wheel, the 45 will sit inboard more by 10mm under the fenders or 10mm closer to the struts. If thats confusing, if you take a 10mm SPACER and install it with a 35mm offset wheel, this will make the wheel essentially a 25mm offset NOT 45mm. It's hard for me to explain but if you go to tirerack.com i'm sure there is a section explaining how offsets work.
BTW, i'm not out to make you look bad, i just want the correct info out there. Sorry.
edit: go here and it'll explain offsets with pictures... http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
also the offset does not have anything to do with caliper clearance. the design of the mounting pad (whether its a High pad or not) and the spoke design do. For example Enkeis RPF1 in a 17x9 with a 35mm offset will NOT clear the brakes vs the same wheel in a 17x8.5 (same offset) will. It's all in the design of the wheel. Yes sometimes the offset will have an affect of how "thick" the mounting pad is but that is dependent on how the wheel is designed. But again you are thinking backwards how the offset "numbers" work. Most people do.
Let me put it this way, keeping the widths the same, if you have a 35mm offset wheel vs a 45mm offset wheel, the 45 will sit inboard more by 10mm under the fenders or 10mm closer to the struts. If thats confusing, if you take a 10mm SPACER and install it with a 35mm offset wheel, this will make the wheel essentially a 25mm offset NOT 45mm. It's hard for me to explain but if you go to tirerack.com i'm sure there is a section explaining how offsets work.
BTW, i'm not out to make you look bad, i just want the correct info out there. Sorry.
edit: go here and it'll explain offsets with pictures... http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
Prodrive has a EVO with those sizes except 18 inch and the cars requires wide fenders front and back. Funny how guys only ask about wheels and totally forget tires. What tires you going to run in that huge sizes?
Originally Posted by EVOfunk
Nonsense.
Higher offset = higher distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
Lower offset = lower distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
No hard feelings.
Higher offset = higher distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
Lower offset = lower distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
No hard feelings.
In the pic that you posted. Its the smaller solid line that is fixed in position and the longer dotter line which gets closer to the solid line.
Last edited by sayanara; Nov 26, 2005 at 09:45 AM.
Ok Evofunk... I was not trying to be an a$$ as you seem to be by rubbing it in my face. BUT YOU ARE STILL WRONG. Its guys like you that think youre experts and give out wrong information. Before you insert your other foot in your mouth, do some more research on how offsets work.
You are thinking completely backwards on offsets.
And yes as i said earlier the offset can affect caliper clearance but it is not what determines the clearance or not.... THE DESIGN OF THE WHEEL DOES!
You are thinking completely backwards on offsets.
And yes as i said earlier the offset can affect caliper clearance but it is not what determines the clearance or not.... THE DESIGN OF THE WHEEL DOES!
look at this picture that you posted... the dotted centerline that goes up and down the wheel is NOT where the hub is on the car as you show in your pic and the way you explain offsets. If it was, what is the wheel bolted up to, air? That line shows the dead center of the wheel. Offset is measured from the dead center of the wheel to the mounting pad on the wheel. Look at the pic closer. You'll see what I am talking about.
Last edited by vtsnake; Nov 26, 2005 at 12:10 PM.
Originally Posted by vtsnake
Ok Evofunk... I was not trying to be an a$$ as you seem to be by rubbing it in my face. BUT YOU ARE STILL WRONG. Its guys like you that think youre experts and give out wrong information. Before you insert your other foot in your mouth, do some more research on how offsets work.
You are thinking completely backwards on offsets.
And yes as i said earlier the offset can affect caliper clearance but it is not what determines the clearance or not.... THE DESIGN OF THE WHEEL DOES!
You are thinking completely backwards on offsets.
And yes as i said earlier the offset can affect caliper clearance but it is not what determines the clearance or not.... THE DESIGN OF THE WHEEL DOES!
1. I'm no expert by any means.
2. I didn't rub anything in your face. I just disagreed with your statement.
3. You crossed the line by calling me an a$$. I never insulted you.
4. I will not get into a pissed contest with you.
Have a good one



