I've had my Evo since last June, and since I've had it, I've had to bring it in twice for serious rotor warping.
First time was really bad, steering wheel shook like the dickens when I slowed to a stop.
The dealer fixed it by machining the rotors down. Problem was fixed for about a month until it got really bad again.
It got to about the same roughness when I brough it back in and they then replaced my rotors altogether.
Now it's only been a month again, and I'm starting to feel some shake when I brake again. It's not bad, but I'm sure it's gonna progress to badly warped rotors again, and lead me to bring it in for a third time.
Should I be consulting someone about lemon laws or such??? Or should I wait to see if the dealer reinstalls some new brembos???
First time was really bad, steering wheel shook like the dickens when I slowed to a stop.
The dealer fixed it by machining the rotors down. Problem was fixed for about a month until it got really bad again.
It got to about the same roughness when I brough it back in and they then replaced my rotors altogether.
Now it's only been a month again, and I'm starting to feel some shake when I brake again. It's not bad, but I'm sure it's gonna progress to badly warped rotors again, and lead me to bring it in for a third time.
Should I be consulting someone about lemon laws or such??? Or should I wait to see if the dealer reinstalls some new brembos???
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Do you brake hard often? Or do you park your car in a area with a lot of sand/soil/debris?
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i've been dealing with the same thing. Two dealer visits, same result both times and i only have 11k miles. daily driving, no track time what so ever.
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hi.
its not "warping". its uneven pad transfer on the rotors. if you lightly sand the rotors and rebed the pads well, it will go away.
you might want to try a different pad; some are more prone to this than others (and the stock ferodos seem prone to it).
good luck
todd
its not "warping". its uneven pad transfer on the rotors. if you lightly sand the rotors and rebed the pads well, it will go away.
you might want to try a different pad; some are more prone to this than others (and the stock ferodos seem prone to it).
good luck
todd
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its not "warping". its uneven pad transfer on the rotors. if you lightly sand the rotors and rebed the pads well, it will go away.
you might want to try a different pad; some are more prone to this than others (and the stock ferodos seem prone to it).
good luck
todd
You are right about it being pad transfer, but the stock pads are made by Brembo, not Ferodo. The most common cause of uneven pad transfer is holding the brake pedal down while stopped after hard braking. Originally Posted by d15b7
hi.its not "warping". its uneven pad transfer on the rotors. if you lightly sand the rotors and rebed the pads well, it will go away.
you might want to try a different pad; some are more prone to this than others (and the stock ferodos seem prone to it).
good luck
todd
To those with this problem: You should try adjusting your driving style so that if you have to come to a complete stop you do not brake hard and you do not keep your foot on the brake pedal after stopped (if possible). It's also important to drive around a bit to cool your brakes after spirited driving that heats your brakes.
-Paul
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Paul is correct, there are countless threads on this issue. It is the driver's bad habits...
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To those with this problem: You should try adjusting your driving style so that if you have to come to a complete stop you do not brake hard and you do not keep your foot on the brake pedal after stopped (if possible). It's also important to drive around a bit to cool your brakes after spirited driving that heats your brakes.
-Paul
Originally Posted by PVD04
You are right about it being pad transfer, but the stock pads are made by Brembo, not Ferodo. The most common cause of uneven pad transfer is holding the brake pedal down while stopped after hard braking. To those with this problem: You should try adjusting your driving style so that if you have to come to a complete stop you do not brake hard and you do not keep your foot on the brake pedal after stopped (if possible). It's also important to drive around a bit to cool your brakes after spirited driving that heats your brakes.
-Paul
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"Bad habit" should be used loosely - If you live in the mountains outside Milwaukee then you need to keep your foot on the brake and your drving, or braking, style is limited in options, but if you are in or near the city on level ground, take your foot off the middle pedal!
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I'm sorry, you are correct, in some areas, it is impossible to keep your foot off the brake. The point is that there is nothing wrong with the rotors...
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Originally Posted by 4cdndctn
"Bad habit" should be used loosely - If you live in the mountains outside Milwaukee then you need to keep your foot on the brake and your drving, or braking, style is limited in options, but if you are in or near the city on level ground, take your foot off the middle pedal!
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.....mine (2003) does the same from day one and I got it with less than a mile on the clock
(only at HWY speed, not city driving>>10,000 miles now)
.....mine (2003) does the same from day one and I got it with less than a mile on the clock
(only at HWY speed, not city driving>>10,000 miles now)Keep your foot off the brake at a stop??? Dude, if someone rear ends you and you go into someone else, and you aren't on the brakes, the fender bender in front of you is your fault. The people behind you can claim you're taillights weren't on, and you're supposed to be on your brakes at a complete stop, you're foot on the brakes could've theorhetically stopped the accident in front of you from happening..
And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
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And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
You don't have to get defensive, I'm trying to help you. If you search, you will see that this topic has been covered many times, you might want to read this article as well.Originally Posted by JOBNUMBER
Keep your foot off the brake at a stop??? Dude, if someone rear ends you and you go into someone else, and you aren't on the brakes, the fender bender in front of you is your fault. The people behind you can claim you're taillights weren't on, and you're supposed to be on your brakes at a complete stop, you're foot on the brakes could've theorhetically stopped the accident in front of you from happening..And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml
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And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
No need to get defensive. I was just trying to help by letting you know the common causes for your problem. If you search you'll notice that the people with this "warped rotor" problem typically have it come back even after replacing rotors and pads. This would be an incication of a incompatibility between driving style and equipment, not just an equipment problem. Originally Posted by JOBNUMBER
Keep your foot off the brake at a stop??? Dude, if someone rear ends you and you go into someone else, and you aren't on the brakes, the fender bender in front of you is your fault. The people behind you can claim you're taillights weren't on, and you're supposed to be on your brakes at a complete stop, you're foot on the brakes could've theorhetically stopped the accident in front of you from happening..And it's bad habits if you keep you're foot on the brake at a stop??? C'mon, I'm not mashing the brakes in with every muscle fiber in my right foot.
I don't drive fast, hell with 14 mile per gallon mileage, and the prices on gas nowadays, it's more test in conservation than a spirited drive when I'm on the road. I slow down far in advance, and try to let the car slow itself down before I apply brakes.
And no... I don't sit there mashing on the brakes like a madman when I go from 25 to 0.
If this conservative driving is too much for these high end brakes, I don't know what gives.
But I appreciate the blame without knowing the full story.
-Paul
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its hard not being defensive when people continue to blame the problem on the drivers. I could be wrong but i'd like to think any driver over 30 years old should understand cars by now. As many times as this topic has been discussed you might have to stop and consider Mitsu has some real quality issues.
If my driving style is the reason why i'm having these problems, then why does my local dealer continue to fix my brakes? Just my 2cents....
If my driving style is the reason why i'm having these problems, then why does my local dealer continue to fix my brakes? Just my 2cents....
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.....mine (2003) does the same from day one and I got it with less than a mile on the clock
(only at HWY speed, not city driving>>10,000 miles now)
whos to blame here?Originally Posted by AWDTurbo4
BUT...........mine (2003) does the same from day one and I got it with less than a mile on the clock
(only at HWY speed, not city driving>>10,000 miles now)
not me...
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No one should be taking this offensively.
It's not good to stand on your brakes - limited pressure triggers brake lights, use limited pressure when possible.
Impact wrenches = BAD. Hand torque.
Bed your pads - If it doesn't work, try it 1/4 speed in reverse, then try again.
Lightly sand your rotors.
Check pads for odd wear.
Confirm you not ebake sliding and flat spotting your tires.
It's not good to stand on your brakes - limited pressure triggers brake lights, use limited pressure when possible.
Impact wrenches = BAD. Hand torque.
Bed your pads - If it doesn't work, try it 1/4 speed in reverse, then try again.
Lightly sand your rotors.
Check pads for odd wear.
Confirm you not ebake sliding and flat spotting your tires.



