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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Camber, The Streetable LIMIT?

hey guys

i normally run my camber at about -1.5 in the front and -1 degree in the rear on both sides.

recently for fun, i tried out a new setting, just to see how it felt.

i tried -3.5 in the front and -3 in the rear...

and WOW! the car definetely is more responsive and handles tighter or so it seems.

BUT! what im wondering is, whats the max amount of camber i can daily drive on the highway 50 miles each day without getting camber wear on the tires??

whats a good camber spec to stick with? my origional -1.5/-1 or can i do more?

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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Running 50 miles a day, I would think even your current alignment would wear the inside of your tire unless you auto-x, track the tires, or slide the car around every turn (fun but encourages the wrath or your neighbors).
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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-3.5 is a lot....



BUT what kind of tires are you running and what kind of suspension? it all depends......

of course


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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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If you beat the **** out of your car it will work just fine however if you do prolonged straight line driving the camber will eat your tires up.

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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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i've run a lot of negative camber on my daily drivers before. the rears on my daily driven 240 were like -3 or more. they didn't have that bad of wear really, even with a welded differential. the fronts had the camber plates maxed out - those did see excessive wear, partially due to the toe being horribly off.

i wouldn't really want more than -3 for everyday though
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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I'm running -3 on the front and after 1k miles the wear is clear. Luckily with the ASX's I don't care that much.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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camber might be ok if you are not highway driving.

you would need to adjust your Toe settings though as they have been affected by your severe camber changes.

-3.5 sounds like alot for the street, and specially -3 for the rear.... you just dont need that much camber in the rear, stick to -1 back there.

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mayhem
I'm running -3 on the front and after 1k miles the wear is clear. Luckily with the ASX's I don't care that much.
You probably don't need -3 with Kumho ASX's....


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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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I have been using -2.5 at the front and -1.5 at the back with zero toe for over two years. I like the handling with this alignment for HPDEs and autocrosses. There is definitely inner shoulder wear that reduces tire life with this alignment. That wear primarily comes from highway driving to events. I'm considering reducing the camber to -2/-1 F/R in the near future to change the compromise a bit.

FYI, Grassroots Motorsports magazine profiled a couple of top level Evo autocrossers in the current issue. As I recall, both use about -2.5 to -3.0 degrees at the front. -3.5 seems excessive.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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just rotate your tires...

and no i'm not retarded. pay to have them broken down and swapped directions and then the inside will wear and then become the outside... problem solved.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
You probably don't need -3 with Kumho ASX's....


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No kidding. But I do need it for my RA1's.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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I'm in the same boat. I slammed the camber to -3 for the track and still haven't put it back to "street" mode because I say to myself "I'll be at the track again soon"
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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I'm in the same boat. I slammed the camber to -3 for the track and still haven't put it back to "street" mode because I say to myself "I'll be at the track again soon"
are you on stock suspension? cause i'm pretty sure that's not possible...
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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i run -2.5 / -1.6 30k no sign of uneaven wear.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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No kidding. But I do need it for my RA1's.
Ahh good call. Enjoy!


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