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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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Pros of the aggressive wheel section....I NEED HELP!

I have a 06 RS its been lowerd on tein type s springs, this is only for until I get enough for a coilover setup. I hate them but thats what I had laying around. I have 18x8.5's now and I want to go to a 17x9.5 with a 255/35 tire. I know im probably going to need spacers and im ok with that, I know chances are that im going to need to roll the fenders and im ok with that too. I was looking into the Tire Rack fender roller, I heard that as long as you take your time and have a heat gun you can do it without cracking the paint. What I want to ask the pros is, what is the offset that im going to need to get this look and not need have to go crazy. I dont want any rubbing but the less fender mods the better. The look that im going for is a dished wheel that sticks out a bit. You know, the out side of the wheels sticks out, and the spokes have a nice aggressive bend towards the hub. I've been searching forever and im dumb when it comes to offsets. Im looking for the perfect wheel so I keep them for a LONG time.

This look but in a 17"
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=318032

Here are some examples of the wheels i've been looking at.

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkce.htm

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkte.htm

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/gl57spro.htm

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/gl57maxpro.htm

Thanks for all the help!
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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c-mon guys someone has to know.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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lower offset, the more the wheel will have the concave look you want. The wheel is pushed out farther as the offset is decreased. I run 17x9 +29 with no spacers and no fender rolling

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Can you put up a pic of the car?
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AFAIK there is no 255/35/17 tire, only 255/40 and 255/45.

It sounds like you are really after the flush look, and no doubt, it's a hot one. Just remember, super flush is not always optimal for performance or practicality. There is a fine line between functional flush and impractical flush, and we all want to be just on the practical side of the line.

With this in mind, 17x9 or 9.5" is your ticket. Getting these wheels in a very flush offset and 255s may limit you to 255, maybe 265, but 255 is pretty decent size tire. All of the wheels you listed are available with very good spoke to caliper clearance and should not need spacers if you get the right offset, which should be around +30 or lower if you want maximum flushness and wheel face concavity, and are pretty sure you won't want to go to a 265 or 275 tire. If you think there is the possibility you may want to run 265 or 275s, you may want to get a higher offset like +35-38. While this may not be maximum concavity and flushness, it will give you more options.

If being super flush and having wheels with a concave face is you main concern, then you will want to go 9.5" like you said, and the lowest offset you can realistically fit under rolled or trimmed stock fenders.

Those lame S Techs are also a hindrance to more than just your handling and ground clearance. To get optimal wheel fitment on an aggressive setup, coilovers are often necessary. Something to consider before you pop $2500 on wheels, and are stuck with the awesomeness of $130 springs that are too soft and too low for anything besides show...

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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17x9.5 +25 255/40/17 fendor rolling required at the rear. No spacers needed.

vo/My%20Car/IMG_4533.jpg
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MadEvo89
17x9.5 +25 255/40/17 fendor rolling required at the rear. No spacers needed.

vo/My%20Car/IMG_4533.jpg
perfect size
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Yes, Advan RS and RGII in particular offer perfect sizes for that type of fitment and killer looks. One of the reasons they are popular almost to a fault, but I just might succumb to the shallowness of getting some myself for this very reason.

Those almost look like 18s, which is unusual for dark wheels.

MadEvo89, what suspension is that on?
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
AFAIK there is no 255/35/17 tire, only 255/40 and 255/45.

It sounds like you are really after the flush look, and no doubt, it's a hot one. Just remember, super flush is not always optimal for performance or practicality. There is a fine line between functional flush and impractical flush, and we all want to be just on the practical side of the line.

With this in mind, 17x9 or 9.5" is your ticket. Getting these wheels in a very flush offset and 255s may limit you to 255, maybe 265, but 255 is pretty decent size tire. All of the wheels you listed are available with very good spoke to caliper clearance and should not need spacers if you get the right offset, which should be around +30 or lower if you want maximum flushness and wheel face concavity, and are pretty sure you won't want to go to a 265 or 275 tire. If you think there is the possibility you may want to run 265 or 275s, you may want to get a higher offset like +35-38. While this may not be maximum concavity and flushness, it will give you more options.

If being super flush and having wheels with a concave face is you main concern, then you will want to go 9.5" like you said, and the lowest offset you can realistically fit under rolled or trimmed stock fenders.

Those lame S Techs are also a hindrance to more than just your handling and ground clearance. To get optimal wheel fitment on an aggressive setup, coilovers are often necessary. Something to consider before you pop $2500 on wheels, and are stuck with the awesomeness of $130 springs that are too soft and too low for anything besides show...
Thank you very much this is a big help! I guess its time to save for some coilovers. Im more of a drag race guy, but I never give up the oppertunity to go through some twisties! I have a set of tanabe springs taying around too, would you suggest putting those in instead. Just until I can afford the suspention work.

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I just noticed you have your stock springs for sale. If I were you, I'd keep those around. They aren't worth much money, but are worth a lot when you might want to sell the car or are between other suspensions.

If you absolutely must be lowered right now, I would sell the S Techs and run the Tanabe. Which Tanabe springs do you have? They are probably better than the Teins, but I don't know if it's much better.

The wheels you want may fit under the stock suspension, but it might be close.

If I were you, I would sell both the Tein and Tanabe springs, and get coilovers and wait on wheels (what I actually did, literally), but I am more interested in AutoX right now, and have put my wheel desires aside for the time being.

Or if you have to have those wheels ASAP but think you will get coilovers eventually, switch back to the stock suspension and get the wheels, then get coilovers.

If you absolutely have to have those sick wheels ANd be lowered first, then Tanabe springs and your baller wheels.

Bottom line, just about anything is better than S Techs for handling, comfort, and strut life.
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The springs are red I think that they are the 210's. The reason i have the springs for sale is i had an evo VIII RS before this one and those are the springs from them. I am going to keep the ones from the IX.
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
Yes, Advan RS and RGII in particular offer perfect sizes for that type of fitment and killer looks. One of the reasons they are popular almost to a fault, but I just might succumb to the shallowness of getting some myself for this very reason.

Those almost look like 18s, which is unusual for dark wheels.

MadEvo89, what suspension is that on?
Currently on Works Ride Springs. Saving up for coilovers later this year
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I think you know what you should do now Burnall 4...
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MadEvo89
17x9.5 +25 255/40/17 fendor rolling required at the rear. No spacers needed.
Agreed. 17x9.5 with around a +25 offset is near perfect aggressive fitment IMO. Or a 17x9 +18 (or thereabouts) if you want to go with a 9" wide wheel.
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