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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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staggered wheels

ok i have searched all the threads looking for pics of staggered wheels on a evo 8/9. lots of people talk about but no ones posted pics. its like the lock ness monster or bigfoot everybody talks about it but no one has a good pic of it.i see spec. tire setups no pics does any one actually have any?
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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staggered setups would be useless on an awd vehicle. It would ruin the way the car handles.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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You might be referring to the fact people put wide wheels on evo's that considered the wrong offset (esp. if they run a stretched tire).
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1970
ok i have searched all the threads looking for pics of staggered wheels on a evo 8/9. lots of people talk about but no ones posted pics. its like the lock ness monster or bigfoot everybody talks about it but no one has a good pic of it.i see spec. tire setups no pics does any one actually have any?
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by evocivicmarc88
staggered setups would be useless on an awd vehicle. It would ruin the way the car handles.
try drivetrain....
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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What exactly are you looking for? Some folks running slightly wider front wheels for autocross, but only slightly. For example 18x10.5 front and 18x10 rear. Those cases they also run the _same_ size tire so the circumference is the same. There's not much to see...

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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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The bottom line is you can't run different diameter tires front and rear on an AWD vehicle without eventually doing some damage. Even running the same size tire on two different width wheels will cause problems since stretching the tire will reduce its diameter. Depending on what you're looking for there are plenty of people who run staggered offset wheels though which may achieve the look you're going for. It is possible to run a wider tire at one end as long as the diameter is the same, for example Dunlop Z1's are the same diameter (according to tire rack) in 235/45/17 and 265/40/17.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Different offsets same wheel width/ same tires and it will be fine.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sscottttt
Even running the same size tire on two different width wheels will cause problems since stretching the tire will reduce its diameter.


Really? Have you measured it?

I have. A radial tire will have very, very close to the same circumference over a wide range of wheels widths, certainly over the range of "recommended" widths on tirerack's website.

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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by K1tt3n5
Different offsets same wheel width/ same tires and it will be fine.

ditto.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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as long as tire sizes are the same
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by donour


Really? Have you measured it?

I have. A radial tire will have very, very close to the same circumference over a wide range of wheels widths, certainly over the range of "recommended" widths on tirerack's website.

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Interesting, I would have thought it became an issue pretty quickly. Would you care to share how much the circumference changed over what range of widths? How about a 245 on an 8 to 9.5?

Hope things are great for you back in the RGR btw
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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If you mean staggered offset then here you go.
17x10+18F 17x10+38R 255x40x17 i probably should have gone with 265 or 275 tire



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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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^ I had the same setup, assuming the +18 F is a +38 with a 20mm spacer.
If not, you would have to dismount the tires to rotate them every time, instead of just the wheels, which is a waste of time, money, and unless you're really into spending a lot of both, usually tread as well, just to run staggered setups that can't be rotated front and rear.

That's always been what I don't understand about running staggered offsets on AWD. Why make rotating so much more complicated for just a few mm of offset? I'd rather be racing and easily swapping wheels to rotate than at the wheel machine/shop, or just wasting tread. Really doesn't make sense, but that's just me,

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