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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Help! Brakes question...

Hey guys. I believe i may have screwed up a little bit and was hoping to get some insight/advice. Today I decided to remove my calipers from my car in order to paint them properly. Upon doing this I decided to add some Technafit SS brake lines as well.. While i had the calipers off, i didnt do anything to prevent the fluid from leaking out. Needless to say, something came up and i had to leave the car in my garage on jack stands for a while. Upon my return, I noticed my reservoir was empty (i removed res cap as well when i first started). Will i be experiencing any nightmares trying to get this all back together (air pockets in ABS pump perhaps?)? I plan on using OEM brake fluid once i receieve my SS lines, which is what was in there to begin with. i should probably mention that the pedal has NOT been pressed upon removing the brake lines from the calipers... Should the standard procedure of brake bleeding be sufficient enough to get me back up and running? I have tried searching but i have not really found any helpful information that is applicable to my situation. Rear calipers have not been touched but front calipers are completely off and i even drained the calipers as well. I'm nervous! PLEASE help! Again, Im no expert but The brake pedal has not been pressed since i started the job. Thanks for your time.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:05 AM
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finish the installation and then bleed the brakes the usual way.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:07 AM
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Bleed the master cylinder to Get a friend to pump the brakes when all calipers screws closed and crack the line off at the end of the cylinder to let air out. Then follow to do calipers
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:13 AM
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"Will i be experiencing any nightmares"

You might.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:25 AM
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Rent a vacuum bleeder makes the process much easier. Unless you can find someone to rent you a pressure bleeder
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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Thanks for the quick responses, guys! This is my first time doing this so, naturally, anxiety is high.



If someone isnt to busy, would you care to elaborate on the differences between a vaccuum bleeder and a pressure bleeder?
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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A vacuum bleeder produces vacuum by way of a hand pump and attaches at the far end of the braking system. A pressure bleeder attaches at the master cylinder and, using air pressure, forces brake fluid through the system. Of the two, a pressure bleeder is preferable but more expensive (although, as tools go, not that expensive).
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by barneyb
A vacuum bleeder produces vacuum by way of a hand pump and attaches at the far end of the braking system. A pressure bleeder attaches at the master cylinder and, using air pressure, forces brake fluid through the system. Of the two, a pressure bleeder is preferable but more expensive (although, as tools go, not that expensive).
Thank you!
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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How did it work out for you?
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Make sure to bleed the clutch side also, your fluid will be pretty wet if you left the cap off for any length of time.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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you might have to activate the abs pump also if air got in there, easiest way is to finish bleeding calipers, then get in the car and make sure you have some brake pressure, then drive and slam on the brakes a few times activating the abs pump, on wet or gravel surfaces it easy. Then rebleed calipers and you should be fine!
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Hey everyone.. I havent gotten around to finish this little "project" of mine. the car is still sitting in the garage on jack stands with no calipers on it. I just got my SS brake lines from MAP last night and plan on installing those this weekend. As for finishing the painting of my calipers, I am going to have to wait for warmer weather here in NY. It is definitely to cold out to be spray painting. I have a 30x26 garage but my only source of heat is from a kerosene heater that i have. I would much rather just wait for warmer weather and build a makeshift spray booth in my garage. I plan on hanging them from a 2x4 with wire hangers just to make sure the calipers are properly painted. In the meantime I have plenty of other things to do to my baby. I just gave her new NGK plugs and i plan on doing a coolant flush as well as an oil change and possibly an ACD fluid change. Slowly but surely everything will come together when finances permit (mortgage payment comes first!!). Followed by getting these damn credit cards paid off due to the recent holidays. I still start her up occasionally just to keep her moving around in this cold weather. thanks for your help everyone, ill be sure to post pictures once everything is completed. I have big plans for her this spring. Dumped the GF, and instantly got back into improving my car and it honestly feels great.

BTW: I found this video on youtube that makes blleding seem pretty easy. Has anyone tried it ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgpY_oGINU8
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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Looks like a real pain, most people I know use one of these. No need to stop and add fluid just open the bleeders and go.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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^^ yeah, Looks like its definitely worth the 50$ investment. Thanks for your help! I suppose fitting a vinyl hose on the bleeder valve leading to a pan or bottle to capture the escaping fluid is the correct procedure, right ? I sure as hell don't want brake fluid touching my newly-painted brake calipers. any tips on which fluid to use ? if not, i can search when the time comes. I was going to use OEM fluid but I suppose there are cheaper (possible better) options out there. Also, how much to buy? 1 liter enough ?
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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As I recall the Motive kit comes with some hose to get the fluid away from the caliper, if not any hose that fits snugly on the bleeder will do. I like clear hose so I can see any air that comes out. I'd bet Mitsu uses Brembo fluid at the factory which is pretty good or you can get Motul for about the same price. I always flush the area around the bleeders with water after I'm done just to make sure there's no fluid on a painted surface. Yes 1 litre should do it and make sure to get the clutch slave as it's on the same reservoir as the brakes.

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