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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Alignment on EVO

I am getting new tires put on over the weekend. I am also planning on doing my alignment since I am at 19K miles already. What are the factory specs anyway? I am a little apprehensive about a regular shop working on an EVO. Thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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i would like to know this also....but one of my friends told me that there is no need to find the specs since the alignment machines lign it up using laser so it would be 100% correct...I dunno if this is true though.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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FRONT:
Toe-in standard value: 0+or-2mm (0+or-0.08inch).
Tighten jam nut to 38 ft-lb.
Camber standard value: Can chose from two, 1.00'+or-30'* or 2.00'*+or-30".
Caster standard value: 3.55'+or-30'*.
Kingpin inclination standard value: 13.45'+or-1.30'.
Tighten nut for camber to 123 ft-lb.
Caster is not adjustable.

REAR:
Toe-in standard value: 3+or-2mm (0.12+or-0.07 inch).
Left wheel: Turning clockwise (+) toe-in.
Right wheel: Turning clockwise (-) toe-in.
Camber standard value: 1.00+or-30' (difference between right and left wheel must be less than 30').
Left wheel: Turning clockwise (+) camber.
Right wheel: turning clockwise (-) camber.
69 ft-lb for both nuts.

Good luck,
Any other questions just PM me.

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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i would like to know this also....but one of my friends told me that there is no need to find the specs since the alignment machines lign it up using laser so it would be 100% correct...I dunno if this is true though.
This is true in most cases because the specs for most all cars are programed on the hard drive but for the EVO I rather program the specs in myself. I am a Porsche Technician so I am lucky to have a state of the art alignment machine to my disposal.

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by WINSTON
FRONT:
Toe-in standard value: 0+or-2mm (0+or-0.08inch).
Tighten jam nut to 38 ft-lb.
Camber standard value: Can chose from two, 1.00'+or-30'* or 2.00'*+or-30".
Caster standard value: 3.55'+or-30'*.
Kingpin inclination standard value: 13.45'+or-1.30'.
Tighten nut for camber to 123 ft-lb.
Caster is not adjustable.

REAR:
Toe-in standard value: 3+or-2mm (0.12+or-0.07 inch).
Left wheel: Turning clockwise (+) toe-in.
Right wheel: Turning clockwise (-) toe-in.
Camber standard value: 1.00+or-30' (difference between right and left wheel must be less than 30').
Left wheel: Turning clockwise (+) camber.
Right wheel: turning clockwise (-) camber.
69 ft-lb for both nuts.

Good luck,
Any other questions just PM me.

Winston

Are those factory specs or the ones that you currently have
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Right out of the factory service manual.

These specs are for a stock EVO with stock wheels, tires and ride height.

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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bexa: Those are the factory specs.

WINSTON: Clockwise and counterclockwise refers to turning the eccentric bolt (with the hased gauge on it) attached to the appropriate link? That would make sense since the system is mirrored on each side of the car.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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AFAIK, most shops don't have the specs for EVO VIII in their computers. I called Stokes in Santa Monica (one of the top shops in LA) and they only had EVO VII data (weird, but that might be the same as VIII, don't know).
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by iodine23
bexa: Those are the factory specs.

WINSTON: Clockwise and counterclockwise refers to turning the eccentric bolt (with the hased gauge on it) attached to the appropriate link? That would make sense since the system is mirrored on each side of the car.
Bingo!

For rear toe, the scale has gradations of approximately 3.3 mm (0.13 inch) (single side toe angle equivalent to 19')

For rear camber, the scale has gradations of approximately 14'.

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Oh by the way, always adjust camber first before toe.

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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Thanks guys. I wasn't sure who I was going to use for my alignment earlier. But now I have it scheduled for an alignment at Roadraceengineering when I take it to get the brake pads replaced. I am sure they have plenty of experience and expertise.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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must be nice to be in South Cal...
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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must be nice to be in South Cal...
Yeah, but not if you want high octane gasoline.......
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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For rear toe, the scale has gradations of approximately 3.3 mm (0.13 inch) (single side toe angle equivalent to 19')

So your saying .13 inch rear toe equals 19'(or .32 degrees)??? . I have .25 degrees rear toe on pass side and 0 toe on drivers side. Had it at the dealer 3 times, but they claim mitsu says having 2 different rear toe's is OK (Crock!!!).

Their alignment machine only shows rear toe in degrees and they could not tell me what it equates to in inches. I figured with a tire radius of 12.66 and half the stock required rear toe of .06in., that would equate to an angle of .27 degrees (or 16'). So my reasoning to the dealer is that my rear toe is correct on passenger side and I just need more rear toe on drivers side.

My dealer would not do it and I do plan on getting an alignment somewhere, I was just trying to verify what the "degree to inches" relationship is for rear toe. Not sure if this is the a new thing with alignment machines that they only show toe in degrees, vs the old std. of a linear measurement.
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