Anyone go with MAP Stage 2 Brake Package??
Billy Mays would sell ATE
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I run a 3600 lbs comp weight S197 on ATE Blue in Great Lakes Time Trials (arguably one of the roughest/fastest regions). It lasts me my normal 3 event schedule. Or all summer if I don't race that car.
Dude your pedal gets that 'spongy' feeling because of your break lines, NO OTHER REASON.
Stock break lines swell when put under heavy load and under heavy heat from aggressive breaking. The best and really only solution to that problem is stainless steel lines. Ask anybody. Best bang for your buck, no matter the company.
Break fluid and break pads are all 'give and take'.
Good 'race' pads will make noise, give you dust up the ***, and warp your rotors quick. So listen to these people who have personal experience with specific companys and products. Find that happy medium.
Break fluid goes hand in hand with your new SS break lines. You want a fluid that wont change its characteristics under heat/load.
Stock break lines swell when put under heavy load and under heavy heat from aggressive breaking. The best and really only solution to that problem is stainless steel lines. Ask anybody. Best bang for your buck, no matter the company.
Break fluid and break pads are all 'give and take'.
Good 'race' pads will make noise, give you dust up the ***, and warp your rotors quick. So listen to these people who have personal experience with specific companys and products. Find that happy medium.
Break fluid goes hand in hand with your new SS break lines. You want a fluid that wont change its characteristics under heat/load.
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I run for the full 20 mins x5 sessions
Generally laps 2-4 are my best times.
Race pads to not warp rotors. That is pad material deposit. Switching brands (street to track) increases the likelihood of material deposit. Fresh race pads themselves do not.
Generally laps 2-4 are my best times. Race pads to not warp rotors. That is pad material deposit. Switching brands (street to track) increases the likelihood of material deposit. Fresh race pads themselves do not.
By me saying that race pads warp rotors quicker, I obviously meant that the pads materials do...I mean what else comes in contact with the rotors????.....the pads compound.
Or it could be the Brembo sticker on the outside of the caliper that warps your rotors
Last edited by DropThatHammer; Aug 7, 2012 at 06:18 PM.
Way to re-word and get more into detail to my blunt, but correct statement. There's nothing to prove here, but thank you for clarifying.
By me saying that race pads warp rotors quicker, I obviously meant that the pads materials do...I mean what else comes in contact with the rotors????.....the pads compound.
Or it could be the Brembo sticker on the outside of the caliper that warps your rotors
By me saying that race pads warp rotors quicker, I obviously meant that the pads materials do...I mean what else comes in contact with the rotors????.....the pads compound.
Or it could be the Brembo sticker on the outside of the caliper that warps your rotors

What he was saying was that race pads dont warp the rotor surface, but rather the race pads leave a deposit on the rotor surface.
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Way to re-word and get more into detail to my blunt, but correct statement. There's nothing to prove here, but thank you for clarifying.
By me saying that race pads warp rotors quicker, I obviously meant that the pads materials do...I mean what else comes in contact with the rotors????.....the pads compound.
Or it could be the Brembo sticker on the outside of the caliper that warps your rotors
By me saying that race pads warp rotors quicker, I obviously meant that the pads materials do...I mean what else comes in contact with the rotors????.....the pads compound.
Or it could be the Brembo sticker on the outside of the caliper that warps your rotors

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