correct brembo caliper paint?????
correct brembo caliper paint?????
I need to repaint the front calipers on my IX and I wanted to know if anyone knew for certain which can of caliber spray was the correct matching color. My back ones are mint so I don't want to or need to repaint those but I already have the brembo decal replacements and all I need to know is which paint will match perfectly. Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answer to this.
MOST brembos are powder coated from the factory... for example those on high end performance vehicles.
What we, subarus, and nissans get are painted.
It's not even a good paint.
In my searches, I have found a factory red that is an exact match. However the vehicle was not available in the US. You may be able to find a paint shop to mix it up for you.
It's called Tiziano red by Fiat. the paint code is 199 (or 199a, I can't remember)
It's called Tiziano red by Fiat. the paint code is 199 (or 199a, I can't remember)
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This is exactly the answer I was looking for. Thanks for the straight answer. I've got a paint shop that will mix it for me so this is perfect. Thanks again.
I am not a fan of "caliper paint" because it's extremely thick, and never looks good. What you need to do, is do a base coat/then clear coat with a good 2K clear. This is the same thing done with auto bodies.
They sell super high temperature clear coat can paint at o'reillys auto made for up to 1900 degrees. My stock exhaust manifold cover was looking rusty and beat up and I had a body shop sand blast it and then I hit it with the poop can of high temp clear coat (that's what the body shop called it poop can Haha) and it turned out really nice with a shiny dark grey hue to it. Do you think if the body shop painted the calipers and then I hit it with this clear coat that it would look similar to stock coloring and match decently? Even with the extreme temps of the manifold shield this stuff has held up great and not discolored at all.
I would suggest powder coating them anyway. I have seen dozens of cars that painted them and it looked awful ugly after a few good track days. I powder coated mine and they still look great after 5 years. Just a thought before you spend the money and time they get real hot and normal paint cant deal with it.
OK, let's talk a little bit about paint here...
What most automotive fanboys know of paint, is either something in a rattle can that dries, or something that you brush on and dry. This paint is called a 1K paint. It contains a solvent in it that keeps the paint in a liquid state. When exposed to air, the solvent evaporates, and the paint dries leaving behind the pigment (AKA color)
So, you can take your Ultra high temp, super VHT, thermo-nuclear header/caliper/engine block paint that you picked up at the local HomePepAutoRileys, spray it on ANYTHING, and for the first few weeks it will look AMAZING. However once corrosives or solvents get to it (in our case, brake dust and brake fluid) touch it, your amazing paint job will look like crap.
Want to prove my point for me? Go spray your nifty rattle can paint on.... well, anything... let it dry for some ungodly long time like a week. Then go rub that paint with a rag soaked in gasoline or brake fluid. Then look at the rag.... see all that pigment on the rag? that was once on your engine/header/caliper/whatever. because the solvent re-liquefied the pigment and it came off on your rag.
Now, let's look at a good modern automotive top coat. These are called 2K paints. because the pigment is mixed with a reducer, then just before you spray it, you mix in a hardener. The hardener and the pigments have a chemical reaction, and the paint Flashes, leaving a strong chemical bond. Once this bond is made, it cannot be unmade easily. So you can take that same gasoline soaked rag, and rub it on the paint, and the paint wont come off easily.
So...
If these were my calipers. (and I have already discussed this with the OP). I would either
a) powder coat them in a close color. Not as OEM, but a stronger coating than OEM (IF DONE RIGHT)
or:
b) Prime them with a 2K epoxy primer. Color shoot them with a base coat (BTW, I looked up the paint code. You can pull it off of a 2000 Fiat Doblo paint code 199A) After the base coat has fully flashed, paint the brembo with a white base coat (Toyota 040 Super White II is the closest) with a stencil. Then paint the whole thing with a good quality HARD 2K clear coat. (Dupont Imron Elite is a quality solvant resistant clear coat)
option B takes longer, but will yeild the most OEM like results with longevity.
What most automotive fanboys know of paint, is either something in a rattle can that dries, or something that you brush on and dry. This paint is called a 1K paint. It contains a solvent in it that keeps the paint in a liquid state. When exposed to air, the solvent evaporates, and the paint dries leaving behind the pigment (AKA color)
So, you can take your Ultra high temp, super VHT, thermo-nuclear header/caliper/engine block paint that you picked up at the local HomePepAutoRileys, spray it on ANYTHING, and for the first few weeks it will look AMAZING. However once corrosives or solvents get to it (in our case, brake dust and brake fluid) touch it, your amazing paint job will look like crap.
Want to prove my point for me? Go spray your nifty rattle can paint on.... well, anything... let it dry for some ungodly long time like a week. Then go rub that paint with a rag soaked in gasoline or brake fluid. Then look at the rag.... see all that pigment on the rag? that was once on your engine/header/caliper/whatever. because the solvent re-liquefied the pigment and it came off on your rag.
Now, let's look at a good modern automotive top coat. These are called 2K paints. because the pigment is mixed with a reducer, then just before you spray it, you mix in a hardener. The hardener and the pigments have a chemical reaction, and the paint Flashes, leaving a strong chemical bond. Once this bond is made, it cannot be unmade easily. So you can take that same gasoline soaked rag, and rub it on the paint, and the paint wont come off easily.
So...
If these were my calipers. (and I have already discussed this with the OP). I would either
a) powder coat them in a close color. Not as OEM, but a stronger coating than OEM (IF DONE RIGHT)
or:
b) Prime them with a 2K epoxy primer. Color shoot them with a base coat (BTW, I looked up the paint code. You can pull it off of a 2000 Fiat Doblo paint code 199A) After the base coat has fully flashed, paint the brembo with a white base coat (Toyota 040 Super White II is the closest) with a stencil. Then paint the whole thing with a good quality HARD 2K clear coat. (Dupont Imron Elite is a quality solvant resistant clear coat)
option B takes longer, but will yeild the most OEM like results with longevity.
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Ya, "hatesposers" pm'ed me option B a couple days ago which I like. It was always my intention to have my body shop guy paint them hence asking for the color code. My biggest concern though was would the high temp clear hold up or should the paint shop do that as well. I never had any intention of using spray paint to paint the calipers. A lot of Honda guys spray paint their calipers and he's correct it looks like crap.