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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 01:50 AM
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Exclamation REALLY NEED HELP ON THIS ONE! camber problems

Hi guys.

im searching for a problem, and i hope somebody here can have a solution!

the crossmember??? is comming from a crashed car that has been installed on my car for 3 yrs. but now i need to find out what the problem is to a big difference in camber..

if you see here:
This is my Left side:


and this is my right side:


Test with laser, i have the same amount of camber on both sides..
but you see the difference on top?

and then i found THIS:
are they supposed to be round? or like this??


so the question is.. HOW BIG CHANCE is is to bend the crossmember or a spindle?
cuz i dont belive that lower arms have anything to do with the camber..
and the toe/caster wasnt off on lazer..

anyone with a solution?
btw, is this called a crossmember right?
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 02:59 AM
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oh come oooooooooon people! is there noone here that knows stuff exept slamming evos and braging about too many horsepowers??
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 04:33 AM
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was it crashed in the front ?
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 04:56 AM
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no, the car this subframe is from flew off the road and into a grass field in about 180KM/H

im not sure if he did hit anything. but something must have bin bent?
and i cant figure out wich of the side if the problem, left or right.

i know that one of the front wheels was sticking more outside then other, but dont remember left or right
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 05:18 AM
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There's your problem right there , I could of got twisted slightly your better off with one that hasn't had that history.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 05:22 AM
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Yes that's called a cross-member.
Yes those bushings on the lower control arm are supposed to be round.
Are both camber bolts between the coilovers and the knuckle oriented the same way? Arrow in arrow out?
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
Yes that's called a cross-member.
Yes those bushings on the lower control arm are supposed to be round.
Are both camber bolts between the coilovers and the knuckle oriented the same way? Arrow in arrow out?
yes sir!

everything is maxed out! and still i got about 1degree more on one side..

so my question is, is it possible to bend the hub/spindle that easy? thats the only part that can interfere with camber.. exept is the crossmember is trashe from side, and is a bit "shorter" but i cant see damage anywhere
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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Regarding the upper camber plates. Yes, it is possible to be properly aligned & have the Left camber plate diff than the Right

Whoever aligned it should have worked it so that the lower adjustments & the upper adjustments were even. I would have them re-adjust so the upper plates are even

Looks uneven & not right from a visual standpoint
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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im failing to understand the need to have the plates set equally. as long as the alignment specs are equal side to side why do you feel there is an issue?
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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ok.. to get this clear

them 2 bolts on the leg are maxed out. and if i max out the top on the plate, ONE of the sides has over 1 degree more camber than other side.. that means something is wrong or bent somewhere and since spindle, front arms and my crossmember is coming from a crashed car..
im pretty sure something is wrong...

one side i can have 3.2 in camber, other has barely 2..
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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ok, it wasnt clear that you werent able to reach your desired settings.

i have a similar mismatch between the settings on my camber plates BUT im basically able to get both sides to -3 which is what i want. my car has never had a major accident, it was in the drivers fender at low speed, but thats the side that i am able to get way more camber on, so im not convinced its actually a real problem.

that being said, i am planning to put in new camber bolts just in case, since i had to do some good hammering on mine to install my coilovers.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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To me this is not a problem. If you want more camber get better camber plates and smaller camber bolts.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by deylag
To me this is not a problem. If you want more camber get better camber plates and smaller camber bolts.
i still dont think you understand where i want!

can you please tell my why ONE of my wheels is sticking more out then the other?
camber is the same on lazer, but you can barely see that one rim is alignet with the front arch, while the other side is inside the arch..
this is not about getting much camber as possible, but to make them equal!!

there is clearly something wrong, but where to start? the frame is not damaged, but on full turn to left, my inner right wheel hits the fram.. it doesnt on the drivers side
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 11:48 PM
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Have you measured your caster angle?

It seems from the issues you are describing your caster is off. The circular bushing on the front lower control arm is for caster. I think what's happening is that there is play in that bushing. Statically it might be fine but when its under load it deflects too easily causing this weird wheel position.

This might not help you but here are my alignment settings. These are not stock settings but maybe you can use them as a reference.

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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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hi thanks for info. but my caster was actually ok, no big difference from both sides, and was still on the green..

my caster is not off at all but the camber, and that one of the wheels build out more then other side. even tryed to reverse the camber bolt, but then it got even worse..
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