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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Alignment question

Well just got my alignment done and was looking over the paper when I got home. I'm confused because either I don't know how alignment works or they messed it up. Take a look at the pic. I thought they aligned to OEM specs? The left and right don't even match???

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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Some of the values are even in red which obviously means out of spec. What do you guys recommened I tell them for specs next time? Its mainly a street car so I was thinking 0 toe, -1.5 in the front and -0.5 in the rear for camber.
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Certainly confused by the Right actual as -.5 & the Left actual as -2.5 (That aint right)
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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I recommend checking your camber bolts. There is a triangle on each bolt head. If its pointing out then your camber should be about -2. If its pointing in then you camber should be about -1.

I would say that looking at your suspension settings the tech that was working on your Evo does not know how to do an alignment on your Evo.

These settings are most definitely not stock. A good DD setup would be -1 camber in the front on both sides. -.5 in the rear both sides. Then zero toe all around.
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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I recommend checking your camber bolts. There is a triangle on each bolt head. If its pointing out then your camber should be about -2. If its pointing in then you camber should be about -1.

I would say that looking at your suspension settings the tech that was working on your Evo does not know how to do an alignment on your Evo.

These settings are most definitely not stock. A good DD setup would be -1 camber in the front on both sides. -.5 in the rear both sides. Then zero toe all around.
Camber eccentric bolts are set to -1 on both sides. I have coilovers with camber plates so that would be the main adjustment since I am lower than stock. I agree that he didnt know how to align it. I mean obviously lol. Gonna take it to a different location and show them the results and see what they say. If they say it looks good then maybe time to look for another shop to do it.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Well got it realigned and here is the result.

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I asked for -1.5 on both sides on the front and about -0.5 on rear with 0 toe all around. They messed with it for a while and said that could not be achieved without one throwing out the other. Where are you guys going to get the dead on alignments or is this normal?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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No they are full of s**t. Camber affects toe and its why the camber must be set prior to setting toe but being that the car has independent suspension, independent being the key word here, each side is, yes you guessed it, independent of each other.

Alignments are a PITA but it can be done if they are patient and put forth the effort. Where are you getting your alignment done? You need to ask around and find a place in your area that specializes in race alignments.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by asu11
Well got it realigned and here is the result.

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I asked for -1.5 on both sides on the front and about -0.5 on rear with 0 toe all around. They messed with it for a while and said that could not be achieved without one throwing out the other. Where are you guys going to get the dead on alignments or is this normal?
How can they have set it at -2.2 left & -1.5 right? I would not accept that. Way off?

Rear camber looks OK. Not sure about the toe at 11*
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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How can they have set it at -2.2 left & -1.5 right? I would not accept that. Way off?

Rear camber looks OK. Not sure about the toe at 11*
Yeah im gonna drive it around for a week or two to let the springs settle then try to align again.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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You guys since -2.2 in the front is too much tire wear for a street car? If not ill match the right to the left. If it is ill raise the entire front then match to what the left ends up at.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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Yeah im gonna drive it around for a week or two to let the springs settle then try to align again.
I would just have aligned by a competent shop now

Anyway, IMO

-2.2 is an aggressive street setting. If you dont mind some accelerated inner wear I would say its OK. If your EVO is your DD I would adjust some of that out for tire longevity (back to stock setting or so @ -1.0)
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Yeah the only reason I go back there is I have free lifetime alignments lol.

Yeah I think -1.5 would be better so I see no other options than to raise the car a little bit in the front to take some camber out. Then just adjust from there to as positive as the left side will go since the plates maxed out at positive position.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Unless you are uber low its not your ride height that is throwing off your camber. Its the incompetence tech(s) who have been aligning *cough* trying to align your car. If you want -1.5 in the front make sure the eccentric bolt connecting your strut to the knuckle is pointing inward.

Im guessing they have one that is and the other is pointing outward. Im not sure what nonsense they are brainwashing you with but if you are at a reasonable ride height which I am praying you are then the issue is there own inability or laziness not your car's height.
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