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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Our local shop uses BAP's on everything, from civics to evos to mustangs. All of the locals that run these seem to have great luck. I almost wish I would have gone the BAP route but you live and you learn.

Scheides the numbers/curve still impress me, I am most jealous...I hope my new setup works this well.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
Our local shop uses BAP's on everything, from civics to evos to mustangs. All of the locals that run these seem to have great luck. I almost wish I would have gone the BAP route but you live and you learn.

Scheides the numbers/curve still impress me, I am most jealous...I hope my new setup works this well.
It's definitely a nice inbetween step from a single to dual pump. Just be happy--you have enough fuel system for whatever you decide to throw at your car! I on the other hand will be regularly wondering when it will be maxed out (as I add more mods). I'm guessing this will be good to around 530whp or so on a DD--if I ever hit that, I should be able to afford more fuel system mods :P
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Thats cool scheides, I was looking at that because I've been thinking about going with e85. Only thing is I doubt I can used e85 and a single walbro with a BAP. Considering I'm making 524whp already on 93. Should be capable of 600+ on e85. :-/ May be a good step to do if I just wanted to do a race gas map though.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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We have a local evo 8 with an FPblack making about 600whp on E85 on a BAP with a 255.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Thats cool scheides, I was looking at that because I've been thinking about going with e85. Only thing is I doubt I can used e85 and a single walbro with a BAP. Considering I'm making 524whp already on 93. Should be capable of 600+ on e85. :-/ May be a good step to do if I just wanted to do a race gas map though.
what's the rest of your setup like? You'd be surprised how far you can push a *modified* walbro 255hp with a BAP. I've seen 530whp on this dyno on e85 (311evo) with some room to go.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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scheides, do you have any photos of your BAP install?
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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scheides, do you have any photos of your BAP install?
LOL you know I do This is the 40A/'dual pump' version. It was super simple. The kit comes with a lot of wire, all you really need is some extra 12-gauge wire to run from wherever you mount the BAP to the pump itself and some wiring loom to protect it.



3 things to wire: from car fuel pump lead, to fuel pump, and ground. Comes with a 30A fuse to put in place of your stock 20A under the hood. one lead runs to the engine bay where you plumb in a hobbs switch.



I mounted this guy between the battery and the washer reservoir with a hose clamp and some fuel hoses cut to sit nice and snugly behind it (vibration protection).



Only BIG thing to watch out for is the little dial that comes with it--this needs to be deleted! They fail after a while and voltage just remains at the stock voltage, not the uprated 17.5v. I just used some RCA blanks from radioshack and soldered it so its on full voltage.


If anyone wants one of these, I HIGHLY recommend purchasing from DB Performance in Rogers, MN as without them nobody (AFAIK) would know they exist for the import world!

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Great info, Chris! I had never heard of the BAP!!! Is the single pump model worth going with or should people just jump for the dual?

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Great info, Chris! I had never heard of the BAP!!! Is the single pump model worth going with or should people just jump for the dual?

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Dual. At full rip I blew a 20A fuse once so the 20A one is not enough. Get the bigger one for the extra few bucks and it will last a looooong time.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
what's the rest of your setup like? You'd be surprised how far you can push a *modified* walbro 255hp with a BAP. I've seen 530whp on this dyno on e85 (311evo) with some room to go.
530 would be a lot on a dyno dynamics for sure!

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ct-524whp.html

I would love to go e85 if my single could handle it with a BAP. I just dont see any twin setups I like that retain a surge tank of some sort. Of course I would get a blaqops kit.

Not trying to jack your thread... awesome results!
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Looking good, Scheides!
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
Dual. At full rip I blew a 20A fuse once so the 20A one is not enough. Get the bigger one for the extra few bucks and it will last a looooong time.
So what did you do to wire up the dual pump model to the single pump in your car? (specifically betwen the BAP and the pump)

Or... did you get what looks like a 40 amp single pump model(pulled from their price list http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/P.../PriceList.pdf )?
"KB89069 KIT 249.00 BOOST-A-PUMP 40 AMP (ALL VEHICLES - SUPERCHARGED / TURBOCHARGED) SPECIFY VEHICLE"

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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BAP FTW! DB Performance has had DSMs make upper 500's on a single modded 255 and a BAP on E85.

My 255 has lived a long life of E85 since Jan of 2007. 70,000 miles later its still ripping, last 15K on the BAP. And this pump has the HP mod done to it too. Best little $80 walbro I ever bought.

With the BAP I was still able to run 10:1 AFRs at 525hp on this same dyno.

Best part is if the pump every fails, you'll know it.

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