For the Cobb guys... question on intake maps and hp numbers..
For the Cobb guys... question on intake maps and hp numbers..
I have asked the question in a few other threads, but maybe it just wasn't seen. I see on your site that you don't have any sort of % increase over the standard stage 1 map with any of the intake maps added. Surely it must add some sort of power... have you all just worried strictly about making sure all the numbers are correct before dynoing the car or something else perhaps?
I really would like to get one of these intakes you have maps for.. or even wait for the panel filter maps to come out, but I would like to know what sort of numbers I would be looking at before spending another 200.00-300.00 or more dollars on these overpriced intakes. Thanks for any info you can give us guys! Great product in the AP
I really would like to get one of these intakes you have maps for.. or even wait for the panel filter maps to come out, but I would like to know what sort of numbers I would be looking at before spending another 200.00-300.00 or more dollars on these overpriced intakes. Thanks for any info you can give us guys! Great product in the AP
Last edited by Methodical4u; May 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM.
With a stock turbo, I have seen no gains over stock drop-in filter with a intake of any sort after a tune. Everyone can argue till the cows come home but that is my experience on 30+ Evo 10's.
Intake will help you later on down the road, IE once you're at stage 2 +custom tune, upped boost, etc. Plus, the sound of having an intake is sooooo worth it. Just get the cobb intake, only $150 and just as good as any other.
I could honestly care less about the sound. I want the hp when i'm driving hard and the better flow and mileage when i'm crusing.
Honestly, man I would just wait for the drop in maps. iirc HKS is first and should be out soon. Until you get heavily into mods (upgraded turbo etc..) I just can't see an intake making tremendous more power than a drop in with a turbo inlet pipe
there you go unbiased, point of view from a tuner.....I would take it to the bank.
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Here this is what travis from cobb told me.
[QUOTE][The power difference between a car with an intake and a tune and just a tune is pretty minimal. however, an intake can be an advantageous mod if you are going to install a larger turbo down the road. You biggest gains will be from an AP and a downpipe, however. The intercooler pipes and inlet do not really MAKE power but are more robust parts that will not flex under the stress of high-performance tuning and driving.
Travis
COBB Tuning /QUOTE]
[QUOTE][The power difference between a car with an intake and a tune and just a tune is pretty minimal. however, an intake can be an advantageous mod if you are going to install a larger turbo down the road. You biggest gains will be from an AP and a downpipe, however. The intercooler pipes and inlet do not really MAKE power but are more robust parts that will not flex under the stress of high-performance tuning and driving.
Travis
COBB Tuning /QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EvoX777;7108543]Here this is what travis from cobb told me.
That's interesting that there would be hardly any difference in the flow that it wouldn't increase it even 10 or so hp. I guess i'm better off to put a bit more into an exhaust and go to the stage 2 cobb map.
[The power difference between a car with an intake and a tune and just a tune is pretty minimal. however, an intake can be an advantageous mod if you are going to install a larger turbo down the road. You biggest gains will be from an AP and a downpipe, however. The intercooler pipes and inlet do not really MAKE power but are more robust parts that will not flex under the stress of high-performance tuning and driving.
Travis
COBB Tuning /QUOTE]
Travis
COBB Tuning /QUOTE]
Save up some money and get yourself a full turbo back exhaust setup. Avoid getting the basic downpipe upgrade. This part yields no gain.
I would suggest ETS, RRE, or AMS O2 downpipe along w/ any branded hiflow cat plus the 3" catback setup.
As for intakes, just stick w/ a drop in filter. Cosworth or K&N drop in should do fine.
If you want better response, replacing your uicp should be on your list.
After the tune, you should easily net more than 300whp and tq.
I would suggest ETS, RRE, or AMS O2 downpipe along w/ any branded hiflow cat plus the 3" catback setup.
As for intakes, just stick w/ a drop in filter. Cosworth or K&N drop in should do fine.
If you want better response, replacing your uicp should be on your list.
After the tune, you should easily net more than 300whp and tq.
Last edited by GGIXMRSE06; May 31, 2009 at 08:16 PM.
Save up some money and get yourself a full turbo back exhaust setup. Avoid getting the basic downpipe upgrade. This part yields no gain.
I would suggest ETS, RRE, or AMS O2 downpipe along w/ any branded hiflow cat plus the 3" catback setup.
As for intakes, just stick w/ a drop in filter. Cosworth or K&N drop in should do fine.
If you want better response, replacing your uicp should be on your list.
After the tune, you should easily net more than 300whp and tq.
I would suggest ETS, RRE, or AMS O2 downpipe along w/ any branded hiflow cat plus the 3" catback setup.
As for intakes, just stick w/ a drop in filter. Cosworth or K&N drop in should do fine.
If you want better response, replacing your uicp should be on your list.
After the tune, you should easily net more than 300whp and tq.



