Who tunes partial throttle really well?
Who does good reliable partial throttle tunes across the rev range and how many hours/days should I expect it to take?
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Do evo's have part throttle?
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Great answer! :lol:
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Originally Posted by Gyroscope
(Post 10237260)
Who does good reliable partial throttle tunes across the rev range and how many hours/days should I expect it to take?
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all cars have part throttle...
using a dynapack you can tune it rather quickly... days will turn into a hour or 2 depending on how anal you get... always road test to verify afrs you were targeting on the dyno if ran in open loop... you will need a wideband on board to do this thou... |
I have never seen proper partial throttle done in a few hours on the dyno. it takes lots of logging and road tuning.
Golden can do it for sure, he chimed in here. Otherwise Jon @ Hbspeed (formerly) will do it for ya really well. |
I have never seen proper partial throttle done in a few hours on the dyno. it takes lots of logging and road tuning. That's one way to measure a shops competency, are you in and out in 1 hour, or do they take 3,4, plus hours (for $500, 1 hour is redonkulous) |
i do this for a living, our shop 1800+ cars a year... its not that complicated bro
on my own evo ive gotten 100 more miles to the tank over stock... etc if u do this everyday, you know what works and what doesnt...
Originally Posted by murlo26
(Post 10238800)
I have never seen proper partial throttle done in a few hours on the dyno. it takes lots of logging and road tuning.
Golden can do it for sure, he chimed in here. Otherwise Jon @ Hbspeed (formerly) will do it for ya really well. |
Originally Posted by palmerblock
(Post 10239059)
i do this for a living, our shop 1800+ cars a year... its not that complicated bro
on my own evo ive gotten 100 more miles to the tank over stock... etc if u do this everyday, you know what works and what doesnt... Just because you tune a bunch of cars doesn't mean you can magically do what takes lots of road tuning and logging and perfecting in a few hours. I am sure your tunes are satisfactory but my version of what is acceptable has changed now that I started doing road tuning. My car for reference has been on the dyno for over 200 pulls...meaning lots and lots and lots of dyno time. Never ran "great" until I switched to road tuning because frankly no dyno gets load of the road (hehe) perfect. So again, not attacking you, but no tuner can dial in full throttle, partial throttle, driveability etc etc in a few hours unless the car is mostly stock. I guess I would like to add that, the level of modification does affect the tuning it takes. I will say this though, a fully built motor car just takes time. |
Originally Posted by murlo26
(Post 10239081)
If you say so...I am not doubting your abilities. But just like every other big shop out there, they tend to try and tune any car in a few hours and where stuff suffers is always driveability and part thorttle. I am not saying it will be dangerous just not polished.
Just because you tune a bunch of cars doesn't mean you can magically do what takes lots of road tuning and logging and perfecting in a few hours. I am sure your tunes are satisfactory but my version of what is acceptable has changed now that I started doing road tuning. My car for reference has been on the dyno for over 200 pulls...meaning lots and lots and lots of dyno time. Never ran "great" until I switched to road tuning because frankly no dyno gets load of the road (hehe) perfect. So again, not attacking you, but no tuner can dial in full throttle, partial throttle, driveability etc etc in a few hours unless the car is mostly stock. I guess I would like to add that, the level of modification does affect the tuning it takes. I will say this though, a fully built motor car just takes time. I use what i have done over time on Hundreds of evo X's to make great base maps that WORK both part throttle and Full and use that to adjust WOT, Mid and Cruise to get what i want out of the car. Unless its a highly complicated tune most take about 2 hours and 1/2 of that is all non wot throttle... **** look how fast i made your car run right, Imagine if i could do it in person how quickly it would happen {thumbup} |
Originally Posted by palmerblock
(Post 10239059)
i do this for a living, our shop 1800+ cars a year... its not that complicated bro
on my own evo ive gotten 100 more miles to the tank over stock... etc if u do this everyday, you know what works and what doesnt... 313 days in a year (6 days a week) 1800/313 is 5.75 cars a day Most people here dont know you guys have 2 or 3 dynapacks (2wd) and that you have 2-3 tuners. So YOU dont necessarily tune 1800 cars a year. However that is just numbers and guesstimates. The fact of the matter is that there are tuners out there that do part throttle stuff and do a good job @ it. However (sadly) most people don't want to pay for real "tuning" they just want to make 500whp on pump gas on a stock turbo |
Originally Posted by palmerblock
(Post 10239059)
on my own evo ive gotten 100 more miles to the tank over stock... etc
If I need to pay for the input I'd be glad to - provided you can guarantee results. :beer: |
Originally Posted by BakaUnchi
(Post 10239532)
You do a minimum of 6 cars a day everyday 6 days a week no Vacation or breaks? No variation in amount of cars?
313 days in a year (6 days a week) 1800/313 is 5.75 cars a day Most people here dont know you guys have 2 or 3 dynapacks (2wd) and that you have 2-3 tuners. So YOU dont necessarily tune 1800 cars a year. However that is just numbers and guesstimates. The fact of the matter is that there are tuners out there that do part throttle stuff and do a good job @ it. However (sadly) most people don't want to pay for real "tuning" they just want to make 500whp on pump gas on a stock turbo Mitch |
Originally Posted by palmerblock
(Post 10239059)
i do this for a living, our shop 1800+ cars a year... its not that complicated bro
on my own evo ive gotten 100 more miles to the tank over stock... etc if u do this everyday, you know what works and what doesnt... |
Subscribed. I want to see how he answers. There's no way you can get that kind of gains with a tune.
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