Turbotrix X - No more clutch
well between that and the clutch, different level of modification you know...
In some places they even want your warranty voided only with a dropp in...
And if you unlucky and stop by one of those dealers...
There are countless "unfair" voiding out there/even in this forum/ and the modification is much lighter then an aftermarket clutch.
That is why ,the MMNA is so famous about they "warranty".
That makes me think back to when I had my old car. They had a motorsports company that made aftermarket parts for certain model's of there cars (luckily mine was on of them
). We have 2 dealerships here. 1 of the dealerships was hella lenient toward aftermarket parts + installs. The aftermarket parts I needed a lift for, and I was hard pressed on time to do, they did 100% of those installs and even tuned it to Stg 2 for people. Anything broke on it they would honor it back and fix it without dispute. The other dealership was pretty strict to the warranty policies. If you had so much as a CAI on your car they would not touch it. Not so much as void your warranty but they would not have none of their techs lay a finger on it.*good use of the smilies - btw*
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It all depends on if you are a dick or not, my old evo had cams, no cat, meth, race slicks on it, ecu mods and I had a check eng light, they replace a injector under warr w/o any problem. If you walk in acting like a dick yes they will tell you to get screwed. Both my evo's have ALWAYS had great service from 
I just called to verify that this is indeed BS and well, as always, it's up to the dealer.
I spoke with a Joe in MMNA and he explained to me that anytime you put ANY aftermarket part on the car, *IF* the part was deemed to cause the malfunction then the part that needs to be replaced will NOT be replaced for free.
This verifies my suspicions that it's totally dependent on the dealership. I've been to South Coast Mitsu and talked with the mechanic there (Riko) and he told me there were many cases where an aftermarket clutch being found would void the warranty on drivetrain.
My take? If you put an aftermarket clutch on the car, expect to pay for any damages to your drivetrain. If you get lucky, then knock-on-wood..
I spoke with a Joe in MMNA and he explained to me that anytime you put ANY aftermarket part on the car, *IF* the part was deemed to cause the malfunction then the part that needs to be replaced will NOT be replaced for free.
This verifies my suspicions that it's totally dependent on the dealership. I've been to South Coast Mitsu and talked with the mechanic there (Riko) and he told me there were many cases where an aftermarket clutch being found would void the warranty on drivetrain.
My take? If you put an aftermarket clutch on the car, expect to pay for any damages to your drivetrain. If you get lucky, then knock-on-wood..
And like Atlmethevo said, its all about your attitude. I have never had any issues with warranty coverage, but I know several guys that have because they treat the service guys like crap. You cant expect to get sugar when you hand someone a lemon, thats all I got to say
^^ That's true, but even in those cases, business is business.
The last time I was denied warranty coverage was because of a malfunctioning water pump. When I took it to Glendale Mits, the service guy there was cool as hell. He told me that their inspectors would take pictures of my car and void the warranty across the whole country because I had no cat, headers, and full exhaust with boost controller.
Needless to say, don't assume anything when mods go on the car..
-M
The last time I was denied warranty coverage was because of a malfunctioning water pump. When I took it to Glendale Mits, the service guy there was cool as hell. He told me that their inspectors would take pictures of my car and void the warranty across the whole country because I had no cat, headers, and full exhaust with boost controller.
Needless to say, don't assume anything when mods go on the car..
-M
The clutches in DSG equipped cars are "wet" clutches... that alone improves life. When you add in the fact that they're multiplate, I wouldn't worry all that much.
I am not suprised with it is slipping, but don't worry, the remedy is on it's way. The stock pressure plate tests about 2200lbs just like the EVO 8 clutch. The two are very similar except for the center peice design.
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Originally Posted by EvilEvo9MR
Well.... About the restrictor pill it would have nothing to do with the clutch slipping....... The restrictor pill only had to do with how fast the clutch will engage, no effect once clutch had fully locked up. That was my understanding of this restrictor pill.
The restrictor pill has everything to do with the clutch potentially slipping by directly affecting how quickly it engages.
This is entirely dependant upon the driver and how aggressively they apply throttle, but they are directly related regardless.
My point is that when you lift off the clutch pedal, the engagement is slowed down because of the restrictor. If the throttle is applied too aggressively and too soon, the flywheel will slip against the clutch while it is still in the process of engaging.
This will causing slipping, if only momentarily, but it will slip nonetheless, and is how Mitsubishi achieves such smooth driveability from the factory.
Slipping leads directly to wear.
Remove the restrictor to speed up the engagement and the clutch will seem a bit harsher, but only because it will grip more aggressively initially.
I'm not saying that this is guaranteed to be the cause in this nor every single other potential case, but it is certainly a possible contributing factor when the car is driven aggressively. This same exact sort of thing is incorporated on numerous other cars from the factory and is removed on said cars for the exact same reasons.
Originally Posted by EvilEvo9MR
Well.... About the restrictor pill it would have nothing to do with the clutch slipping....... The restrictor pill only had to do with how fast the clutch will engage, no effect once clutch had fully locked up. That was my understanding of this restrictor pill.
The restrictor pill has everything to do with the clutch potentially slipping by directly affecting how quickly it engages.
This is entirely dependant upon the driver and how aggressively they apply throttle, but they are directly related regardless.
My point is that when you lift off the clutch pedal, the engagement is slowed down because of the restrictor. If the throttle is applied too aggressively and too soon, the flywheel will slip against the clutch while it is still in the process of engaging.
This will causing slipping, if only momentarily, but it will slip nonetheless, and is how Mitsubishi achieves such smooth driveability from the factory.
Slipping leads directly to wear.
Remove the restrictor to speed up the engagement and the clutch will seem a bit harsher, but only because it will grip more aggressively initially.
I'm not saying that this is guaranteed to be the cause in this nor every single other potential case, but it is certainly a possible contributing factor when the car is driven aggressively. This same exact sort of thing is incorporated on numerous other cars from the factory and is removed on said cars for the exact same reasons.
Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
WOW!!! It is hard to believe that the clutch is already slipping in such new car. I am wondering if the new up coming twin clutch would hold up longer.
l8r)
So when are we gonna get some pics that removed clutch?
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restrictor pill, is that the same as a CDV (clutch delay valve)? If so, removing it may save the clutch, but leaving it in saves the drivetrain by reducing shock loads.
But lots of people remove them. Here's a guy that made a business out of it (plust nice explanation of how it works): http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm (btw, this guy, at least for bmws, doesn't remove it so that the dealer can void your warranty. he leaves the piece of metal there, sot it visually looks the same, but hollows it out so it doesn't serve its intended function. maybe you guys can do that too to avoid getting the warranty voided).
But lots of people remove them. Here's a guy that made a business out of it (plust nice explanation of how it works): http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm (btw, this guy, at least for bmws, doesn't remove it so that the dealer can void your warranty. he leaves the piece of metal there, sot it visually looks the same, but hollows it out so it doesn't serve its intended function. maybe you guys can do that too to avoid getting the warranty voided).
Last edited by bugnot; Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM.