AMS Performance: Amazing Service!!
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Ryan,
Your suggestion of putting the $$ into a Civic reminds me of a judge when I was in traffic court fighting a speeding ticket," I see your point, I just don't agree with it". A Civic is not AWD and could not outperform the X in the twisty's everything else being equal; I was contrasting the GTR, an AWD car, to a similar performance AWD car, the X. Both these cars were designed for performance but one more than the other. Nissan pulled out all the stops on the GTR; they even had Cosworth make major mod's to the VQ with special coating on the pistons and the like to get more HP and presumably reliability. Then Nissan hyped the hell out of the car and ergo we get the huge cost differential between the X and the GTR. My point here is, just looking at awd production cars, I think your current vehicle (and perhaps the STI; forgive me Lord for this transgression) and associated, very inexpensive mod's relative to the OEM GTR, the X is competitive. That said, with some additional, but reasonable cash (e.g., a larger turbo and associated parts) will outperform the GTR for tens of thousands less $$. Given the difficulty or should I say remote possiblity of modifiying the GTR's ECU, I think this information demonstrates the X ( and other similar based platforms) to be the better investment from a performance point of view.
Sorry for going off topic here and detracting from your efforts and dedication to the X which are commendable but when I saw that vid and that expensive "tank" in front of you laboring in and out of the corners, I could not contain myself. Keep up the good work and I hope and trust AMS's X entry in the Sport Compact's Best Street Car contest will prove, once and for all, the obvious.
Later, Ken
Your suggestion of putting the $$ into a Civic reminds me of a judge when I was in traffic court fighting a speeding ticket," I see your point, I just don't agree with it". A Civic is not AWD and could not outperform the X in the twisty's everything else being equal; I was contrasting the GTR, an AWD car, to a similar performance AWD car, the X. Both these cars were designed for performance but one more than the other. Nissan pulled out all the stops on the GTR; they even had Cosworth make major mod's to the VQ with special coating on the pistons and the like to get more HP and presumably reliability. Then Nissan hyped the hell out of the car and ergo we get the huge cost differential between the X and the GTR. My point here is, just looking at awd production cars, I think your current vehicle (and perhaps the STI; forgive me Lord for this transgression) and associated, very inexpensive mod's relative to the OEM GTR, the X is competitive. That said, with some additional, but reasonable cash (e.g., a larger turbo and associated parts) will outperform the GTR for tens of thousands less $$. Given the difficulty or should I say remote possiblity of modifiying the GTR's ECU, I think this information demonstrates the X ( and other similar based platforms) to be the better investment from a performance point of view.
Sorry for going off topic here and detracting from your efforts and dedication to the X which are commendable but when I saw that vid and that expensive "tank" in front of you laboring in and out of the corners, I could not contain myself. Keep up the good work and I hope and trust AMS's X entry in the Sport Compact's Best Street Car contest will prove, once and for all, the obvious.
Later, Ken
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Come on Ryan, don't tease us here about how the AMS X did in SC Street Car challenge! Give us something after all what can Sport Compact do if you leak a little info, ban you from buying their mag?
Later, Ken
PS: Particularly interested in standing relative to GTR and forget the "grandma test" and the like; just the performance events.
Later, Ken
PS: Particularly interested in standing relative to GTR and forget the "grandma test" and the like; just the performance events.
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Wow, bolt-ons and tune and the X could keep up with GTR! Very, very impressive! Yes, it is true you had a redone suspension a la Robispec (~$4.5K), replaced rotors (~$300) and SS brake lines , so a $35+4.5+0.3+1.2 (tires)+$0.8 (tune)+ $1.5K (clutch/drivetrain=~$43.5K vs a $80+$20-30K (dealer mark up)=~$100-130K GTR was definitely better in the corners but slower in the straights. So let's see here, I wonder what would be the outcome if one put the $56.5-66.5K differential into Ryan's car. No, no that is too much. Let's just put less than half that figure in for a turbo and other goodies and would we all agree the GTR is toast on all elements of the track? And I still got ten's of thousands left over for the big party after the race. Which car do you think is the best bang for the buck?
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
evos are overachieving for years, but the guy put it rite, the GT-R buyer doesn't look at it that way, same as the lambo owner doesnt, blah ,blah blah, its usually the people that cant and never will afford the higher end product that will throw out the comparisons.
Come on Ryan, don't tease us here about how the AMS X did in SC Street Car challenge! Give us something after all what can Sport Compact do if you leak a little info, ban you from buying their mag?
Later, Ken
PS: Particularly interested in standing relative to GTR and forget the "grandma test" and the like; just the performance events.
Later, Ken
PS: Particularly interested in standing relative to GTR and forget the "grandma test" and the like; just the performance events.
Eric
Ryan and Ben ( woofy wont come hang out in vegas ) are the man and dog respectively. they both play hard and are out on the front lines showing what this car is fully capabable of.
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Later, Ken
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what cave did you just crawl out of evos are overachieving for years, but the guy put it rite, the GT-R buyer doesn't look at it that way, same as the lambo owner doesnt, blah ,blah blah, its usually the people that cant and never will afford the higher end product that will throw out the comparisons.
evos are overachieving for years, but the guy put it rite, the GT-R buyer doesn't look at it that way, same as the lambo owner doesnt, blah ,blah blah, its usually the people that cant and never will afford the higher end product that will throw out the comparisons.Later, Ken
^Ummm, Lambos are handmade and much sexier than an evo. People that buy those cars are not concerned about HP per $ or bang for the buck. And Diesel actually says "Smoke 'em". (damn its sad I know that....)
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True they are a looker but such owners ALSO think they can outperform such "trash" as well. When that doesn't happen, there is that look on their face that is, well ,"priceless".
Later, Ken
Ryan,
We have to meet up someday at a track. It'll be interesting to see how our cars and driving skills stack up. Good luck on all your events. You're car is becoming a celebrity on it's own.
I only see you and two other EVO X owners who really track their car. I'm trying to host a private gathering on September 13th at Cal Speedway. PM me if you are interested.
Jason
We have to meet up someday at a track. It'll be interesting to see how our cars and driving skills stack up. Good luck on all your events. You're car is becoming a celebrity on it's own.
I only see you and two other EVO X owners who really track their car. I'm trying to host a private gathering on September 13th at Cal Speedway. PM me if you are interested.
Jason