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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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Supporting an increased Rev Limiter 8500-9000

Apart from the obvious valvetrain modifications. What does the 4b11t need to be able to support revs of around 8500-9000. Does it need modification to the oiling system to keep everything lubricated up top?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 05:35 AM
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I have been running my car to 9k for 2 years with no oiling modifications. I stayed on a 2.0l, which will also have an effect on getting up there. Everything else seems to be fine.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 06:22 AM
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And aside from upgraded rods too right?

I have a built 2.0 (MAP) kelford cams and supertech valves & dual valvesprings and the car revs to 8500 just fine, 9000 probably fine too. If 9000 is indeed your limit, I'd recommend just a basic set of beehive valvesprings. Little less noisy than duals and will do just fine to that rpm limit.

One item of note, not sure if its ever discussed...there is a small plastic oil filter/screen that is cone shaped, it sits depressed in the block but is either the oil feed or return from the head....I put mine back in place when I had the motor apart but I considered leaving it off. 18,500 miles and lots of revs, no issues thus far (knock on wood).
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Agree with Scheides. I have a 2.2L with supertech springs/retainers, supertech +1mm valves and GSC s2 cams and I rev to 9k plenty.

Obviously new rods and rod bolts, aka a built motor and valvetrain is needed. Then its no biggie for a car that is properly tuned.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoX2NR
I have been running my car to 9k for 2 years with no oiling modifications. I stayed on a 2.0l, which will also have an effect on getting up there. Everything else seems to be fine.
You didnt go sleeved huh? Im at the almighty crossroad myself... Which way to go from here...
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You didnt go sleeved huh? Im at the almighty crossroad myself... Which way to go from here...
sleeves....unless money is an issue, sleeve it while its out.

Then you don't have to worry about them ever if you get more mod bug and upgrade more.
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Originally Posted by murlo26
sleeves....unless money is an issue, sleeve it while its out.

Then you don't have to worry about them ever if you get more mod bug and upgrade more.
The info i've read is to stay in or around 500 wheel if not sleeved and sticking with the 2.0 to be safe...?
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Originally Posted by Showbizz41
The info i've read is to stay in or around 500 wheel if not sleeved and sticking with the 2.0 to be safe...?
500whp should be fine sure...but I'd feel safer just getting it sleeved myself.
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Originally Posted by Showbizz41
You didnt go sleeved huh? Im at the almighty crossroad myself... Which way to go from here...
I ended up going sleeved after they cracked on pump gas.

Originally Posted by murlo26
sleeves....unless money is an issue, sleeve it while its out.

Then you don't have to worry about them ever if you get more mod bug and upgrade more.
+1 on adding sleeves if you can while the motor is out

Originally Posted by Showbizz41
The info i've read is to stay in or around 500 wheel if not sleeved and sticking with the 2.0 to be safe...?
If you stay in that area you will be fine...
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Originally Posted by EvoX2NR
I ended up going sleeved after they cracked on pump gas.



+1 on adding sleeves if you can while the motor is out



If you stay in that area you will be fine...
I'd have to say I wouldnt want to be just in that realm.. Im sure, the never ending/ongoing need for more will hit after some time
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Originally Posted by Showbizz41
I'd have to say I wouldnt want to be just in that realm.. Im sure, the never ending/ongoing need for more will hit after some time
Then sleeve you must Yoda says.
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Originally Posted by murlo26
Then sleeve you must Yoda says.
Hahaha
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Originally Posted by murlo26
500whp should be fine sure...but I'd feel safer just getting it sleeved myself.
Yeah... I am at 513 pump now, im only revving out to 7,600 rpm. Same boat... would like to go more
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Yeah... I am at 513 pump now, im only revving out to 7,600 rpm. Same boat... would like to go more
And you stayed 2.0 stock sleeves?
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Originally Posted by scheides
And aside from upgraded rods too right?

I have a built 2.0 (MAP) kelford cams and supertech valves & dual valvesprings and the car revs to 8500 just fine, 9000 probably fine too. If 9000 is indeed your limit, I'd recommend just a basic set of beehive valvesprings. Little less noisy than duals and will do just fine to that rpm limit.

One item of note, not sure if its ever discussed...there is a small plastic oil filter/screen that is cone shaped, it sits depressed in the block but is either the oil feed or return from the head....I put mine back in place when I had the motor apart but I considered leaving it off. 18,500 miles and lots of revs, no issues thus far (knock on wood).
What about rod bolts, ARP2000 suffice, or would you need something like the 625
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