California Differences
^How new is new and are you talking about all manufacturers? My brother's 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3 had less power than other 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3s from other states. Mazda specifically made this model have less power for Califronia.
I'm not really concerned about the emissions differences. I plan on tuning it anyway. I just wanted to know if the EVO X for CA has specific differences. I believe that the X's are 50 state legal and Mitsu doesn't make a CA specific model. I'd just like a more definitive answer. I do know that some manufacturers do this, but with decreasing regularity.
CA highest octane is 91 while the rest of the US has 93.
In the case of the mazda the ecu would compensate for the lower octane number be retarding timing. Just like if you put 87 in a "modern" car that requires 91 or higher. I wonder are there actual ecu software and mechanical (more cats) differences. Does anyone have a window sticker from there X. It should say California emissions somewhere on it. If the folks in CA have this on the sticker and the rest of us don't then I'd say, yes there are differences. If everyone nationwide has this printed on their window sticker or placarded somewhere under the hood then I don't think there are any differences.
In the case of the mazda the ecu would compensate for the lower octane number be retarding timing. Just like if you put 87 in a "modern" car that requires 91 or higher. I wonder are there actual ecu software and mechanical (more cats) differences. Does anyone have a window sticker from there X. It should say California emissions somewhere on it. If the folks in CA have this on the sticker and the rest of us don't then I'd say, yes there are differences. If everyone nationwide has this printed on their window sticker or placarded somewhere under the hood then I don't think there are any differences.
Are you 100 percent certain?
I'm about to make an EVO X purchase from Sout Coast. I live in AZ, but the dealers here can't touch their prices. When I asked for a quote from a local dealer he gave me some line about "California cars are different from Arizona cars". The only thing I can think of is emmisions in relation to catalytic converters or factory tuning of the ecu. I'm sure he's just using scare tactics. Anyone want to chime in on this subject. Thanks
-Travis-
-Travis-
if you look under the hood, you will see an emission decal. it says something like 50 state legal. also if you take that info and read on the ca dmv, you will see that in order for you to bring a car into california, it has to be at least 50 state legal or its just a big hassle. plus if you look on the window sale sticker, it says 50 state. just like other people here said, all evos are the same.
Last edited by jdmjunkiee; Jul 31, 2008 at 08:32 PM.
The days of "49-state" vehicles are long gone, as far as differnt tuning and/or cams etc. There's several states with Ca. emmisions (New York being one), but it's basically just a gas vapor recirculation from the tank system. The power is the same for every state
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