Notices
Evo X General Discuss any generalized technical Evo X related topics that may not fit into the other forums.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

California Differences

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:57 PM
  #16  
VincentX's Avatar
Account Disabled
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
^How new is new and are you talking about all manufacturers? My brother's 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3 had less power than other 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3s from other states. Mazda specifically made this model have less power for Califronia.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:01 PM
  #17  
hibby's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: PA
The current "normal" Lancer is available in several different emissions specs. I know for a fact that General Motors does something like this too.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:12 PM
  #18  
chrisw's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,217
Likes: 0
From: Santa Cruz
all cars sold in the US are 50 state legal.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:29 PM
  #19  
SilentSLJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
I'm not really concerned about the emissions differences. I plan on tuning it anyway. I just wanted to know if the EVO X for CA has specific differences. I believe that the X's are 50 state legal and Mitsu doesn't make a CA specific model. I'd just like a more definitive answer. I do know that some manufacturers do this, but with decreasing regularity.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:35 PM
  #20  
tvbf1's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,218
Likes: 0
From: California
Originally Posted by VincentX
^How new is new and are you talking about all manufacturers? My brother's 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3 had less power than other 2.3L 2005 Mazda 3s from other states. Mazda specifically made this model have less power for Califronia.
Maybe that's due to the Octane.

CA highest octane is 91 while the rest of the US has 93.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:36 PM
  #21  
SilentSLJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Originally Posted by tvbf1
Maybe that's due to the Octane.

CA highest octane is 91 while the rest of the US has 93.

AZ also
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 04:05 PM
  #22  
VincentX's Avatar
Account Disabled
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by tvbf1
Maybe that's due to the Octane.

CA highest octane is 91 while the rest of the US has 93.
That's what I think too. A lot of car manufacturers do this for California bound vehicles. Who cares anyway? You're just one tune away for a bunch more power.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 04:06 PM
  #23  
SilentSLJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
In the case of the mazda the ecu would compensate for the lower octane number be retarding timing. Just like if you put 87 in a "modern" car that requires 91 or higher. I wonder are there actual ecu software and mechanical (more cats) differences. Does anyone have a window sticker from there X. It should say California emissions somewhere on it. If the folks in CA have this on the sticker and the rest of us don't then I'd say, yes there are differences. If everyone nationwide has this printed on their window sticker or placarded somewhere under the hood then I don't think there are any differences.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:20 PM
  #24  
Alifx's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, Kuwait
i don't think there is such thing as a CA-spec evo ;p !
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:24 PM
  #25  
VincentX's Avatar
Account Disabled
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by SilentSLJ
In the case of the mazda the ecu would compensate for the lower octane number be retarding timing. Just like if you put 87 in a "modern" car that requires 91 or higher. I wonder are there actual ecu software and mechanical (more cats) differences. Does anyone have a window sticker from there X. It should say California emissions somewhere on it. If the folks in CA have this on the sticker and the rest of us don't then I'd say, yes there are differences. If everyone nationwide has this printed on their window sticker or placarded somewhere under the hood then I don't think there are any differences.
I see.

Originally Posted by Alifx
i don't think there is such thing as a CA-spec evo ;p !
Are you 100 percent certain?
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:14 PM
  #26  
edofloat's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: at work.
Originally Posted by SilentSLJ
I'm about to make an EVO X purchase from Sout Coast. I live in AZ, but the dealers here can't touch their prices. When I asked for a quote from a local dealer he gave me some line about "California cars are different from Arizona cars". The only thing I can think of is emmisions in relation to catalytic converters or factory tuning of the ecu. I'm sure he's just using scare tactics. Anyone want to chime in on this subject. Thanks

-Travis-
The car is the same, the difference is that South Coast has a high volume of sales and is getting paid from Mitsubishi based on their sales volume which is probably substantially higher than the AZ dealer who may get nothing if their volume is not high enough. Under this circumstance South Coast can take deals the other dealer can't afford to do. Simple.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:26 PM
  #27  
jdmjunkiee's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: so.cali
if you look under the hood, you will see an emission decal. it says something like 50 state legal. also if you take that info and read on the ca dmv, you will see that in order for you to bring a car into california, it has to be at least 50 state legal or its just a big hassle. plus if you look on the window sale sticker, it says 50 state. just like other people here said, all evos are the same.

Last edited by jdmjunkiee; Jul 31, 2008 at 08:32 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:58 PM
  #28  
fastkevin's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: Behind the Orange Curtain
The days of "49-state" vehicles are long gone, as far as differnt tuning and/or cams etc. There's several states with Ca. emmisions (New York being one), but it's basically just a gas vapor recirculation from the tank system. The power is the same for every state
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:31 PM
  #29  
EvolvedVIII's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,003
Likes: 0
From: Riverside, Ca
As far as I know there isn't a single car produced for the U.S. anymore that isn't 50-state legal.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Paulevo9
West Region
29
Jul 9, 2016 08:10 PM
ggevoIX
Evo X General
10
May 13, 2008 11:49 AM
hang187
Northwest Region
18
Jan 18, 2007 09:58 AM
no1v2
04-06 Ralliart General
7
May 21, 2005 06:22 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:54 PM.