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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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I smell an RS coming stateside....

With the new '10 STI Special Ed. coming to the states, do you think will answer by bringing the RS over? And not just an RS with weight savings, but with performance enhancing bits as well.... Just to keep up with the competition.

Oh, btw, I hear the Special Ed. is actually CHEAPER than the "base" STI.

For reference, here's Subaru's intro to the Special Ed. that most of you have seen, I'm sure: http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/impre...ise/index.html

JP also has a R205 with upgraded handling, turbo, ECU, and exhaust, to boost power and overall performance.

Here: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/07/s...n-still-not-c/

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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they need to bring over a proper 6spd evo
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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I don't understand the obsession with 6 gears to be honest. The difference between the 5 spd evo IX and 6 speed IX MR is like 200rpm at highway cruising speeds IIRC. IMO there is nothing wrong with a 5 speed transmission, as long as it is able to handle the power the car makes.

I really hope they bring the RS back, but I'm just not sure that will happen.

Also, the STi special edition is one of those good ideas that was executed poorly.

I heard the wheels weigh like 25 lbs a piece, and they ditched the HID's and other creature comforts that come standard on the STi that many people like, and will probably end up charging more for it.

it would be a smart move, if the sti ever sells.

reminds me of the mugen civic si..

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thatguybryan
I don't understand the obsession with 6 gears to be honest. The difference between the 5 spd evo IX and 6 speed IX MR is like 200rpm at highway cruising speeds IIRC. IMO there is nothing wrong with a 5 speed transmission, as long as it is able to handle the power the car makes.

I really hope they bring the RS back, but I'm just not sure that will happen.

Also, the STi special edition is one of those good ideas that was executed poorly.

I heard the wheels weigh like 25 lbs a piece, and they ditched the HID's and other creature comforts that come standard on the STi that many people like, and will probably end up charging more for it.

it would be a smart move, if the sti ever sells.

reminds me of the mugen civic si..
Its not so much the difference of rpm at a certain speed, as it is the ability to use 5th as a "power gear" and 6th as a cruising gear, imo. thats the only beef I have with my 5 speed. 4th is done at around 120 (give or take pending how much you rev it out).

devils advocate of this is that you have to shift again, losing time when racing. many could argue a properly-ratio'd 5 speed is the way to go. high-speed racers argue the first point in favor of 6 gears.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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Sad things about RS are no aircon and no abs
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Sad things about RS are no aircon and no abs
Then don't get it, this is why in Japan make the RS
I wish we could have the JDM RS...

Cheap: Seats, steering wheel, rims, brakes ect...

RESULT = cheaper Evo to mod.

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:11 AM
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I couldn't get your link to work, but if Subaru is bringing an actual Spec C STi to the states this is the first I heard of it.
For 2010 subie is bringing over a "Special Edition" with Spec C parts but nowhere near the performance, I'm nitpicking the details but those are two vastly different STi's.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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OK, this is how rumors start. The Spec C is NOT coming stateside.

What they are doing the very limited run of an STI special edition.

Details straight from NASIOC:

Specs: * JDM STI spec-C suspension (+$300)
* Unique 18" wheels
* Delete auto climate
* Delete HID headlights
* Delete mirror turn signals
* Delete 6cd --> replace w/ 1CD
Price:
$32,995 ($2000 less than STI)

Limited production of 200 units. (SOA can order more if we want.)
* Only available in Aspen White and Obsidian Black Pearl
* March dealer availability

A de-featured car with Spec C suspension is not a Spec C, which is why they aren't calling it a Spec C. It will has the USA 2.5 liter neutered engine. A Spec C should have a fire breathing rev happy EJ207.

Mitsu is not going to respond to this paltry 200 unit limited run with a USA RS. The 2008s sold so few, the USA didn't even get a 2009. It took heavily discounted pricing and 0% financing to finally get almost all of them out, and there are STILL some 2008s at dealerships.

Not to mention, RS pricing would interfere with their Ralliart cost structure.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skyseer
Sad things about RS are no aircon and no abs
those are the best thing ever in the RS...
just you dont know it...
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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^^ +1

if you want the full experience... eliminate abs, re learn to brake and drive
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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Is there a fuse for our ABS system we can just remove?

I do that constantly in my 2002 WRX, more because the Subaru ABS system is just total **** in the snow, but the same principle would apply.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 06:30 AM
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edited first post to reflect that its NOT a SPEC-C, just the handling bits (thanks Noize) and for some reason my first link to the Subie site wasn't correct. FIXED.

Either way, its gets improved suspension, brakes, underbody panels, and other things over stock form. Plus, its cheaper....
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Details straight from NASIOC:

Price:
$32,995 ($2000 less than STI)

Limited production of 200 units. (SOA can order more if we want.)
* Only available in Aspen White and Obsidian Black Pearl
* March dealer availability
Then the dealerships will add their "limited availability" fees, now it's more than an STi
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Then the dealerships will add their "limited availability" fees, now it's more than an STi
I fear this as well. The economy bites, but 200 is a 4 per state average. Most cities will never see these. It doesn't seem special enough for such a limited run.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skyseer
Sad things about RS are no aircon and no abs
RS can be specced with A/C
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