I actually like the features of the SE. It has most everything I want to steal from the MR and put on my car (2 piece brake rotors, TC-SST, bluetooth, color LCD screen, plus those newer black housing taillights). If they ever do 0% financing, I might trade up.

 

It has nothing to do with liking or disliking. Most people that buy evo's love the enjoyment of shifting. No one wanted an auto that bought a GSR. Not to mention the steep price tag. The MR has it's place, but most true evo enthusiasts will stick with the GSR.

The SE is simply an attempt to sell the MR tranny since they ordered way too many. No one is really buying the MR's compared to what they thought so they are pricing them closer to the GSR to get rid of them.

 

So us MR guys are phonies? I'm pretty sure anyone that spent over $30k for a Lancer is an enthusiast lol. So GT-R owners aren't enthusiasts because last generation Skylines weren't automatic?

 

Never said that...I don't consider an enthusiast to be merely a person that buys the car. More so somehow who borderline lives/breathes Evo's, mods them heavily or races them heavily.

But honestly...yes, I think if people were truly into doing something special with their evo they would have bought a GSR from a logical standpoint. They are some determined MR owners, but very few.

The GTR only comes in Slapdick...i mean slapshift form

 

so if a gsr owner ever mods his car he is not an evo enthusiast? And what about MR owners who heavily mod their cars, are they just posers?

 

You realize that auto manufacturers do not stock transmissions do you? They all employ the Lean techniques brought mainstream by Toyota. It's all based on not keeping inventory and ordering everything by 'just in time' delivery. Manufacturers don't over order as they order on demand only. If they forcast building x amount of cars for the month/year they don't order double the transmissions and keep them stock. Not too many large business run successfully keeping major overhead in inventory.

 

I don't think modding should have any bearing as you can argue a true enthusiast keeps his vehicle 100% unmolested, stock.

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night

No where do I say anything is wrong with the MR...but finance logic says why pay an extra 10k for a car then an extra 3-4k to get the tranny to hold power levels a stock GSR can do.

For heavily modded cars, the GSR makes more sense...unless you are sponsored or have lots of money. You MR guys are so defensive.

 

Agree to disagree. I see your point there for sure.

 

Bcause they are insecure and need to belive what they have is the best .

 

No...they are ballers!

 

This has already turned into another GSR vs MR debate, maybe partly my fault as I was trying to say why I think the reason the SE has an MR tranny, but people buy each model for different reasons.

Honestly there is no better model, unless you judge it by price or available options.

Both the GSR and MR's have their places.

 

the sculp of this epidemic is now reaching global proportions

 

so whats the difference between the MR and SE??? all i see is the gsr wheels and the lip spoiler??? thats it??

 

SE gets heated cloth seats, MR brakes,suspension,hid headlights,GSR wheels and lip spoiler