MR owners: would you do it again?
OH please .... nothing wrong with the GSR for DD, the 2010 (with options ) or 2011 are as nice as a MR...please don't tell me the interior of the MR is sooooo much better, it is not.....
But if you want no left foot workout you have no choice but to go with SE or MR.
Drive them all and pick what you want...don’t ask others (it is all personal preference).
PS: My experience, yes I did own the 'fancy dual clutch auto version’ for 1 year and I did not like it.... so I sold it and got the GSR (personal preference)…and it is my DD.
But if you want no left foot workout you have no choice but to go with SE or MR.
Drive them all and pick what you want...don’t ask others (it is all personal preference).
PS: My experience, yes I did own the 'fancy dual clutch auto version’ for 1 year and I did not like it.... so I sold it and got the GSR (personal preference)…and it is my DD.
Whiners. Prefer manual over any auto tranny. It's more engaging to drive having to shift your own gears. Driving an auto tranny bores me to death. No complaints in heavy traffic as the first two gears are all you need. A lot of times I just leave it in 2nd as there's enough torque to get you moving even at couple mph.
The whole GSR vs MR interior...what a joke. Only major difference is the seats. I personally prefer cloth as it holds you well during hard manuvers.
To me it sounds like a lot of MR owners wanted luxury over performance (i.e. not having to work to drive the car, 'fancier' interior, MR badge, etc.). A lot of lazy drivers out there.
The whole GSR vs MR interior...what a joke. Only major difference is the seats. I personally prefer cloth as it holds you well during hard manuvers.
To me it sounds like a lot of MR owners wanted luxury over performance (i.e. not having to work to drive the car, 'fancier' interior, MR badge, etc.). A lot of lazy drivers out there.
So then all those Ferrari, Lambo, GT-R, supercar owners bought their cars for the luxury? They all have twin clutch systems exclusively.
I have an MR and will never go back to left foot manual...especially with SSP 600hp kit! It's only going to get better.
I have an MR and will never go back to left foot manual...especially with SSP 600hp kit! It's only going to get better.
Last edited by sohlman; Mar 25, 2011 at 11:49 AM.
Thanks for all the input!
Traffic doesn't concern me, it's relatively mild in Denver, at least on my route.
I've driven a manual all my life. The paddle setup intrigues me, I guess I'll have to give one a go and see what I think of it.
Also, I'm looking for used. 2010 and 2011s are probably going to be out of my price range, unless I can swing a sweetheart deal.
Traffic doesn't concern me, it's relatively mild in Denver, at least on my route.
I've driven a manual all my life. The paddle setup intrigues me, I guess I'll have to give one a go and see what I think of it.
Also, I'm looking for used. 2010 and 2011s are probably going to be out of my price range, unless I can swing a sweetheart deal.
its all personal preference. my dad has a X, I have an 8, both GSR, both stick. i drive through DC traffic, he drives through Philly traffic. it all depends on how you drive and what you want.
and the lambo/gtr comments arent even warrented. the gtr DOES have nicer interior than the evo. the lambo DOES have nicer interior than the evo. did they buy the car for that, of course not. there also 6 times the price of the evo.
just go drive them all and decide what you want to get. either way youll have a great car that you love. and if you get bored in a year, just trade it in for the other. gl with your decision bro
and the lambo/gtr comments arent even warrented. the gtr DOES have nicer interior than the evo. the lambo DOES have nicer interior than the evo. did they buy the car for that, of course not. there also 6 times the price of the evo.
just go drive them all and decide what you want to get. either way youll have a great car that you love. and if you get bored in a year, just trade it in for the other. gl with your decision bro
Thanks man.
There's some nice cars for sale on here, but they are all so damn far away. Plus I guess I need 50 posts before I can put up a WTB ad. Boo!
The market here is still pretty high on them, but there's a couple that look OK.
There's some nice cars for sale on here, but they are all so damn far away. Plus I guess I need 50 posts before I can put up a WTB ad. Boo!
The market here is still pretty high on them, but there's a couple that look OK.
It's completely different if not given the option of a manual. So it's a moot point. The whole point, if given the choice between a manual or auto on the Evo, manual every single time for me.
What the hell is the point of 'manually' paddling the gears on the MR/SE anyhow, when the computer can do it better on full auto? Considering 99.9% of the time the computer can optimize shifts better than any human can in the DCT.
Ultimately, aren't you truly posing in the MR/SE if you're trying to 'manually' shift through the gears. It's one thing to let the computer do the shifting and calling it a day...just don't understand the concept of paddle shifting when it's not optimal vs full auto. Aren't you then back to the whole concept of a manual to begin with, just without the use of a left foot?
my IX is practically sold and I will be picking up an MR in the next 6 to 8 months...
the leather interior is kinda a moot point with the 2011 GSRs having optional full leather interiors and increase sound deadening(I think its spelled right)
The DC area sucks when it comes to traffic too so it is an MR all the way for me. If I can find a good deal on 2010/11 MR-T then I will go that route. If not I will just pick up a base MR.
I don't know... maybe I am getting old... I am not feeling the gear shifting anymore, at least around here you just don't get to it for fun... just for sucky traffic
the leather interior is kinda a moot point with the 2011 GSRs having optional full leather interiors and increase sound deadening(I think its spelled right)
The DC area sucks when it comes to traffic too so it is an MR all the way for me. If I can find a good deal on 2010/11 MR-T then I will go that route. If not I will just pick up a base MR.
I don't know... maybe I am getting old... I am not feeling the gear shifting anymore, at least around here you just don't get to it for fun... just for sucky traffic
Evos have never been known for awesome transmissions. The X transmission is kind of notchy and with only 5 gears it is a bit loud on the highway, but none of that should be deal breakers if you want a manual. The transmission overall is fine and especially if you want to mod you might want to go GSR.
But do yourself a favor and test drive an MR just to be sure, the SST is one of the best dual clutch transmissions on the market - just be sure to put it in S-Sport mode to get the full experience. You might be surprised how awesomely smooth the shifting is.
But do yourself a favor and test drive an MR just to be sure, the SST is one of the best dual clutch transmissions on the market - just be sure to put it in S-Sport mode to get the full experience. You might be surprised how awesomely smooth the shifting is.
Answered your own question regarding luxury. The above cars mentioned, with the pricetag, are they not considered luxury vehicles? Last I looked supercars were considered luxury.
It's completely different if not given the option of a manual. So it's a moot point. The whole point, if given the choice between a manual or auto on the Evo, manual every single time for me.
What the hell is the point of 'manually' paddling the gears on the MR/SE anyhow, when the computer can do it better on full auto? Considering 99.9% of the time the computer can optimize shifts better than any human can in the DCT.
Ultimately, aren't you truly posing in the MR/SE if you're trying to 'manually' shift through the gears. It's one thing to let the computer do the shifting and calling it a day...just don't understand the concept of paddle shifting when it's not optimal vs full auto. Aren't you then back to the whole concept of a manual to begin with, just without the use of a left foot?
It's completely different if not given the option of a manual. So it's a moot point. The whole point, if given the choice between a manual or auto on the Evo, manual every single time for me.
What the hell is the point of 'manually' paddling the gears on the MR/SE anyhow, when the computer can do it better on full auto? Considering 99.9% of the time the computer can optimize shifts better than any human can in the DCT.
Ultimately, aren't you truly posing in the MR/SE if you're trying to 'manually' shift through the gears. It's one thing to let the computer do the shifting and calling it a day...just don't understand the concept of paddle shifting when it's not optimal vs full auto. Aren't you then back to the whole concept of a manual to begin with, just without the use of a left foot?
My point was, Ferrari/Lambo/GTRs have automated manual twin clutch systems and no one buys them for their interiors. They buy them for performance, technology and thrill. If manual (left foot) transmissions handle better, provide more thrill and deliver a exceptional performance gain...why would the above car companies have switched? It's just trickle-down for our Evos and I'm glad for that.
And why manually shift TC? Simply cuz the computer doesn't recognize the corner approaching, with the pot hole at the apex, and the slowing car off line re-entering the race line in front of you. Fully auto trans can't hold the revs where you'll need them. Maybe someday it will.
Yeah, S-Sport is really awesome. It often makes me feel like I'm hurting something inside the trans because it shifts slow abrupt, yet smooth.
Answered your own question regarding luxury. The above cars mentioned, with the pricetag, are they not considered luxury vehicles? Last I looked supercars were considered luxury.
It's completely different if not given the option of a manual. So it's a moot point. The whole point, if given the choice between a manual or auto on the Evo, manual every single time for me.
What the hell is the point of 'manually' paddling the gears on the MR/SE anyhow, when the computer can do it better on full auto? Considering 99.9% of the time the computer can optimize shifts better than any human can in the DCT.
Ultimately, aren't you truly posing in the MR/SE if you're trying to 'manually' shift through the gears. It's one thing to let the computer do the shifting and calling it a day...just don't understand the concept of paddle shifting when it's not optimal vs full auto. Aren't you then back to the whole concept of a manual to begin with, just without the use of a left foot?
It's completely different if not given the option of a manual. So it's a moot point. The whole point, if given the choice between a manual or auto on the Evo, manual every single time for me.
What the hell is the point of 'manually' paddling the gears on the MR/SE anyhow, when the computer can do it better on full auto? Considering 99.9% of the time the computer can optimize shifts better than any human can in the DCT.
Ultimately, aren't you truly posing in the MR/SE if you're trying to 'manually' shift through the gears. It's one thing to let the computer do the shifting and calling it a day...just don't understand the concept of paddle shifting when it's not optimal vs full auto. Aren't you then back to the whole concept of a manual to begin with, just without the use of a left foot?
Good points.
My point was, Ferrari/Lambo/GTRs have automated manual twin clutch systems and no one buys them for their interiors. They buy them for performance, technology and thrill. If manual (left foot) transmissions handle better, provide more thrill and deliver a exceptional performance gain...why would the above car companies have switched? It's just trickle-down for our Evos and I'm glad for that.
And why manually shift TC? Simply cuz the computer doesn't recognize the corner approaching, with the pot hole at the apex, and the slowing car off line re-entering the race line in front of you. Fully auto trans can't hold the revs where you'll need them. Maybe someday it will.
Yeah, S-Sport is really awesome. It often makes me feel like I'm hurting something inside the trans because it shifts slow abrupt, yet smooth.
My point was, Ferrari/Lambo/GTRs have automated manual twin clutch systems and no one buys them for their interiors. They buy them for performance, technology and thrill. If manual (left foot) transmissions handle better, provide more thrill and deliver a exceptional performance gain...why would the above car companies have switched? It's just trickle-down for our Evos and I'm glad for that.
And why manually shift TC? Simply cuz the computer doesn't recognize the corner approaching, with the pot hole at the apex, and the slowing car off line re-entering the race line in front of you. Fully auto trans can't hold the revs where you'll need them. Maybe someday it will.
Yeah, S-Sport is really awesome. It often makes me feel like I'm hurting something inside the trans because it shifts slow abrupt, yet smooth.
Good points.
My point was, Ferrari/Lambo/GTRs have automated manual twin clutch systems and no one buys them for their interiors. They buy them for performance, technology and thrill. If manual (left foot) transmissions handle better, provide more thrill and deliver a exceptional performance gain...why would the above car companies have switched? It's just trickle-down for our Evos and I'm glad for that.
And why manually shift TC? Simply cuz the computer doesn't recognize the corner approaching, with the pot hole at the apex, and the slowing car off line re-entering the race line in front of you. Fully auto trans can't hold the revs where you'll need them. Maybe someday it will.
Yeah, S-Sport is really awesome. It often makes me feel like I'm hurting something inside the trans because it shifts slow abrupt, yet smooth.
My point was, Ferrari/Lambo/GTRs have automated manual twin clutch systems and no one buys them for their interiors. They buy them for performance, technology and thrill. If manual (left foot) transmissions handle better, provide more thrill and deliver a exceptional performance gain...why would the above car companies have switched? It's just trickle-down for our Evos and I'm glad for that.
And why manually shift TC? Simply cuz the computer doesn't recognize the corner approaching, with the pot hole at the apex, and the slowing car off line re-entering the race line in front of you. Fully auto trans can't hold the revs where you'll need them. Maybe someday it will.
Yeah, S-Sport is really awesome. It often makes me feel like I'm hurting something inside the trans because it shifts slow abrupt, yet smooth.
Yeah, I understand. I just find it funny when MR owners try to justify their purchase by bringing up daily driving duties, MR vs GSR. For me, I don't even think or concentrate on changing gears as it comes naturally for me. It just happens.
It's even more convenient with the gearing on the 5 speed. Makes it less of a 'hassle' banging out gears.
I don't know how anyone can say the Evo is good for daily driving. Yeah, it's comfy for the most part depending on your subjectivity of what's comfortable. But the fact is...it's expensive for daily duty. 17/23mpg (avg'd 19mpg), frequent tire change if you drive a lot and use/buy 'good' tires, above average maintenance intervals, HIGH insurance premiums, etc. Regardless of what trim level Evo you drive, the costs apply all the same.
If people wanna base the MR/SE as the more luxurious or better daily driver over the GSR because of seats and auto tranny, they're seriously missing the broad spectrum. When it all boils down to it, there's only one sole factor for choosing between the two transmissions. You either like the auto or you don't, vice versa. I just find it absurd anyone would buy an MR just for the leather seats.



