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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Moving to E85

So I finally have a station about 8 miles away, and I'd like to move to E85.

Right now engine is totally stock. I run the off the shelf Stage 1 Accessport map.

Plans are: Test pipe, intake, then stage 2 OTS map.

After that I have DW850 Injectors (not yet installed). I can either scale myself or go to the Stage 2 OTS map for 800cc for that as well.

Long term will be full turbo back, downpipe, UICP, LICP, intercooler and last of all a full professional tune to get the most out of this.

I will remain stock motor/stock turbo indefinitely. This is a 500 mile per week DD, with occasional autocross in it and maybe even some drags now and then, but first and foremost a DD. Will the DW850s be sufficient to max out the suggested mod list with E85? Will I need a bigger fuel pump?

When I switch to E85 and back to 93 as will sometimes be required, is running it down a little past the second fuel chime good enough? Obviously I swap maps when I swap fuel, but is "almost empty" empty enough?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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No thoughts on this?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tkromer
So I finally have a station about 8 miles away, and I'd like to move to E85.

Right now engine is totally stock. I run the off the shelf Stage 1 Accessport map.

Plans are: Test pipe, intake, then stage 2 OTS map.

After that I have DW850 Injectors (not yet installed). I can either scale myself or go to the Stage 2 OTS map for 800cc for that as well.

Long term will be full turbo back, downpipe, UICP, LICP, intercooler and last of all a full professional tune to get the most out of this.

I will remain stock motor/stock turbo indefinitely. This is a 500 mile per week DD, with occasional autocross in it and maybe even some drags now and then, but first and foremost a DD. Will the DW850s be sufficient to max out the suggested mod list with E85? Will I need a bigger fuel pump?

When I switch to E85 and back to 93 as will sometimes be required, is running it down a little past the second fuel chime good enough? Obviously I swap maps when I swap fuel, but is "almost empty" empty enough?
You'll want to scale your 850s in the tune itself. I have OTS Stage 2 Cobb maps w/800cc's, at WOT, they are at 90 duty cycle, so they should be okay w/850cc.

stock fuel pump runs 240 LPH, so a 255 LPH isn't much improvement.

E85 is slow to warm up the car, so you know, and if you don't let it warm up, might throw a code in the winter.

Sometimes wintertime is actually E70 to ease starting, you may run rich but thats ok
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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I'll probably run E85 summer and 93 in the winter. My garage is slightly heated (ie I have one vent out there so it's about 40 when it's 0 outside), so warmup won't be bad at home but it could be elsewhere. I'll stick mostly with 93 in the winter and in summer occassions when I can't find E85 (traveling etc).

Is running down to the second chime empty enough?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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One more question, how is the OTS E85 tune? Noticeably better than 93?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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When I fill up around the second chime, I get about 12.5 gallons in. The tank is supposedly 14.5 gallons. Filling up around the second chime (preferably ~10miles after) with "100% gas" should be fine. Your end result will be something like E10, which is fine. If you're worried about it and it's a long term switch, go easy on it the first half of the tank then top it off with 100% gas again.
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