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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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Mobile 1 advance fuel economy

Has anyone tried this yet? would it be good for our evo
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Just my opinion, but anything designed for fuel economy is probably not what you want for your Evo.



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I saw you listed an FP Black as a future mod. With FP turbo's you'll want to stick to Brad Penn, Valvoline VR1, or like Amsoil Dominator
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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+1 when I had my S197 Mustang GT I was warned to stay away from fuel economy oils especially Mobil 1.

They achieve their claim by making oil that's way too thin. It broke down too easily and left you with oil that burned off leaving your engine vulnerable. I can't imagine how bad it would be for forced induction!

EDIT: Staten Island NY?!? shouldn't you have bigger concerns than which oil to run in your Evo?

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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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first thing I read

Fuel Ecomony Oil + Evo = lol

Joking aside , I would stay away from all sorts of specialty synthetic oils.. they usually have additives that break down under extreme heat ( ie the oil cycling on the turbo).

I've seen way to many turbo siezed because of crappy oil over the years.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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mobile1 ep ftw!

($26 for a 5+ quart jug at walmart :P)
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EAGLE 5
+1 when I had my S197 Mustang GT I was warned to stay away from fuel economy oils especially Mobil 1.

They achieve their claim by making oil that's way too thin. It broke down too easily and left you with oil that burned off leaving your engine vulnerable. I can't imagine how bad it would be for forced induction!

EDIT: Staten Island NY?!? shouldn't you have bigger concerns than which oil to run in your Evo?
Mobil1 is actually the manufacture recommended oil for the Evo. I've run Mobil1 for a decade through 6 different vehicles. I can't argue they reformulated it to be more eco friendly. But I still think it's better than some oils out there for a stock Evo engine.

IMO, if you've never opened up your engine and you're on stock turbo, Mobil1 is fine. However, changing it frequently, especially if you do track days is key.

If you've swapped your turbo, go by whatever the turbo manufacture recommends, but most will agree Brad Penn, VR1, Amsoil Dominator, or Redline isn't a bad choice.

If you are swapping internals on your engine, Follow the directions of your builder. They will know that engine better than anyone else on the net. If you think your builder doesn't know what they're talking about, you should reconsider building with them
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EAGLE 5
EDIT: Staten Island NY?!? shouldn't you have bigger concerns than which oil to run in your Evo?
I laughed at this. It didn't click for a second until I saw the date the thread started.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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Mobil1 is actually the manufacture recommended oil for the Evo. I've run Mobil1 for a decade through 6 different vehicles. I can't argue they reformulated it to be more eco friendly. But I still think it's better than some oils out there for a stock Evo engine.

IMO, if you've never opened up your engine and you're on stock turbo, Mobil1 is fine. However, changing it frequently, especially if you do track days is key.

If you've swapped your turbo, go by whatever the turbo manufacture recommends, but most will agree Brad Penn, VR1, Amsoil Dominator, or Redline isn't a bad choice.

If you are swapping internals on your engine, Follow the directions of your builder. They will know that engine better than anyone else on the net. If you think your builder doesn't know what they're talking about, you should reconsider building with them
Don't get me wrong Mobil 1 is good stuff and use it exclusively in my Nissans and now the Evo, but there is evidence where that stuff is extremely hit or miss depending on which vehicle used AND certain formulations especially the low thickness 5W-20 applications.

For some reasons that particular weight is not as good, some threads I read years ago when I had the GT and first got the STi mentioned that the fuel economy mixes are mostly done using Exxon material which is not that great. Their higher weight stuff on the other hand is still mostly Mobil material (with some Exxon)

I had a massive JLT II CAI which required tuning to even get it to start (I was putting 93 octane in a 91 or 87 tune to prevent from pinging). I could actually tell when I put 5W-20 M1 in it because it would ping even on 93. Changing to something else like Castrol or Rotella T6 (awesome stuff btw) would cut the pinging completely.

So I'm not saying M1 is bad just not all the formulations of it but definitely their thin stuff is way too thin and that's a pretty common remark around different forums.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Here's a thread from back when I owned a 3000GT/Stealth.

http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/mobil-1-...nt-see-450024/

For those of you who don't want to read through a gajillion pages of good information, it basically comes down to this: how often you change your oil is much, much more important than which oil you use.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by EAGLE 5
+1 when I had my S197 Mustang GT I was warned to stay away from fuel economy oils especially Mobil 1.

They achieve their claim by making oil that's way too thin. It broke down too easily and left you with oil that burned off leaving your engine vulnerable. I can't imagine how bad it would be for forced induction!

EDIT: Staten Island NY?!? shouldn't you have bigger concerns than which oil to run in your Evo?
mmm yes I do live on Staten Island and no I don't have anything to be concern about at all
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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mmm yes I do live on Staten Island and no I don't have anything to be concern about at all
Glad to hear you're OK, the way the news made it look like half the place was on fire or washed out and this morning they were flipping out over gas leaks everywhere.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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^^ thank go i have hot water and lights are still on, beach area is washed out, a lady lost her 2 kids by 2 huge waves
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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^^ thank go i have hot water and lights are still on, beach area is washed out, a lady lost her 2 kids by 2 huge waves
That is tragic. You can replace cars/stuff/houses/etc. not people.

Haven't watched much news lately but when I did they seemed to downplay the likely human loss in favor of crap like stockmarket is closed, times square is empty, broadway is silent.. Really?
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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When I was in the subaru scene, Rotella T6 was hotness. I haven't heard much about it since I came over to the Evo, but for the Evo I still stick to my previous suggestions.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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When I was in the subaru scene, Rotella T6 was hotness. I haven't heard much about it since I came over to the Evo, but for the Evo I still stick to my previous suggestions.
Yeah great stuff! my buddy's 240sx with chain rattle and a hint of rod knock sounds smooth as a lexus when he runs it.

When I tried it on my STi the car ran great but incinerated the whole thing within my 5000 mile interval. I was like 3 quarts down on oil when I pulled it into service after running it. I think it was my car though because it was a piece.... Excellent lubricating ability, really thick but still slick enough to work and it is made from the highest quality synthetic stock I think IV out of V levels IIRC most off the shelf Synths are III.

I'm just letting the dealer do the work for warranty or I'd probably give it a shot.
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