To Iowa - Yes, I was targeting by the handbrake.

To Love - This confuses me. What do you mean by "Apex turns" (all turns have an apex). So, are you saying that, even with the button pushed for 3 sec you are getting a power cut, and you suspect it is due to the ASC system detecting you overboosting (or just making a ton of power) and it cutting power? See, I don't really understand the issue, but, presuming the system is off (3 sec piush) then it, as far as everything I've read, does not ever cut power or throttle. It doesn't on mine.

 

Setting aside the idea that some turns don't have an apex, the reason why the Type-1 traction control doesn't kick in when you're in the higher gears is because you don't have the power to break the tires free at those speeds.

 

I know that the hand-brake switch has no effect on the single-wheel braking for the AYC. I've never tested it, but I strongly suspect that the hand-brake switch will also have no effect on the ASC functions. Have you checked this?

ps. my tests of whether the hand-brake turned off the AYC functions were hilarious; you have to picture the S-AWC display showing three bars of yaw with the center still blank

pps. closed course with anti-stig driver; do not do these tests on the street

 

I think they were talking about moving the traction control button down next to the shifter to make it easier to reach when all strapped in, not changing the ACD setting

 

Yeah, that makes a bunch more sense than my reading, doesn't it?

 

I have not experimented with clicking the handbrake to disengage the AYC or anything else. I've just stuck (and feel stuck...) with holding the button for 3 seconds.

Yeah, I'm just considering moving the ASC off (and Off-off) button to the center console from the dash. I'd move the steering toggle switch as well.

Here's the question, as I prepare to do this.

- I know that the center console is pre-wired for the S-AWC selector as many have it there from the factory because of Bluetooth or whatever on their steering wheel. The wiring harness is right there and so it is easy to pop it right in.

- I want to move the ASC switch from the dash, which does not appear to have an identical harness in the center console. Additionally, the harness behind the dash that plugs into the ASC switch is not long enough to reach to the center console.

Is there a know work around that I'm missing? It's a four wire harness. I could easily cut it and add a nice length of wire, solder it... that sort of thing, to lengthen the harness, but hate to do that if there is an easier way to move the ASC switch from the dash to the console.

Ideas? and sorry for the thread jack.

 

I track my GSR at Colorado High Plains Raceway every month for two years now. After holding the button for 3 sec I get zero asc braking. The back end will break free and the car will let the tires break traction if I over-throttle. I run 26 boost and have ast compitition suspension and semi-slicks, and full weight.

One note, each time i trun the car off, the asc comes back on

 

Well, right. You have the button figured out. The question, or at least one of them, is - Are there other methods to turn off these functions aside from pressing the button for three seconds? Is there some way to do it that is more permanent and effective?

Answer - No...not at this point. Keep just pushing the button.

As an aside. I am in the process of moving the ASC off button from the dash to the center console. This will provide better/ easier access when I am fully harnessed in the car (and have forgotten to push the button earlier). The wiring is relatively easy though there is no harness pre-wired into the console (or at least not in this car). So I cut the harness and soldered in another 6 feet of 20/4 to move the harness to the console along side the ASC selector switch and my radio talk button (I had the talk button on the wheel and then the gear shift but kept on calling crew every time I downshifted...so we'll try this). Not a hard project but everything under dash is a pain in a caged car.

I'll post some pictures when I'm done just to complete this thread jack...

 

If it's at all possible, wire in a bright light of some sort when you move the button. Maybe others don't have this problem, but I have forgotten to press the button before starting a run more than once, only realizing the mistake when I get throttle-cut mid-corner.

 

Yes! Me too, and it is spectacularly annoying and renders me anything but competitive. A light might work...I just need to sort out the details.

 

I'm going to be picking up an 08 Evo X soon, and the first thing I'll be doing is wiring a relay onto that ASC switch so it will automatically turn off whenever the car turns on. Once I do I'll post up a how to for anyone who's interested.

The second thing will be trying to find a way around the ABS....

 

That only sounds like a good idea for a track-only car.

As a DD, the ASC is very important. The city roads are ****ty, and they have bumps/dips/holes and curves that can easily take a driver off the road if you are driving fast. Stiff suspension and low profile tires can make the problem worse.

Plus, the ASC does a damn fine job at snow and dirt handling.

On a side note - i track my car at a fast roadcourse and honestly, as a novice and even as a more experienced driver years later - having that ASC on to get warmed up at the track and to test out a new track and to take a passenger out there and show them a good time, but still be somewhat safe - i like the ASC for that.

If you really hate the ASC that much, the X is not really any better than the IX or the VIII - and they are lighter too. They might be a better option...

 

I will not tolerate such computer intervention on any of my DD, or track cars. ABS and ASC are just annoying when you know how to drive without them. In winter, ABS has actually gotten me into some bad situations. I think having ASC on cars teaches drivers that they don't need to let up on the gas when cornering, reminds me of auto-brakes in racing games. Might be a good idea on little runabouts and family cars for people who have no interest in actually driving, but has no place on a sports car - a driver's car.

I make the differentiation between these systems which limit the driver's input and attempt to correct their "mistakes", and AYC, AWC, DCCD, Active aero, ect which enhances the car's own abilities.

 

I agree that everyone should learn car control, but unfortunately 99% of pepole dont care to.

I will have to say I have never had a reason to disable any ASC on my X on the street. I have pulled 1G on tight unbanked turns without any intervention from ASC. Do I hit entry super hard?No. Do I Jam the throttle down recklessly?No. Smooth inputs seems to work just fine.

Maybe some day I will get to the track and be just as frustrated as everyone else. For now, I will try too keep from having something else I want to change on my car

 

This will be handy, let me know. What would be nice is simply to reverse the switch such that when the car is on, it's all off (as if you held the switch for three seconds) and only if you pressed the switch would it activate...while I'm asking...I want a pony.

No, but really, let me know.