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Old May 20, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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both of you are missing the point of the question, and if you associate simple driving habits with fast and furious, you're more ignorant than i thought. you'd think if it's not relevant or important, other car makers won't even bother introducing rev match systems, such as the ones used in ferrari and nissans. if you prefer the car jerking around while doing routine operations, well, whatever floats your boat.
And there it is....go for the personal attack when you don't know what your talking about... someone else mentioned sycro mesh trans's-- a technology that eliminated the need for rev matching 70 years ago. The truth became obvious when you mentioned "jerking around doing routine ops"--- well back to learning how to drive a std and problem solved.. You talk like everyone is having this jerky problem shifting their cars, and that ferrari and nissan have solved the problem with some new electronic tech--well maybe for the 80+K they gave those that couldnt drive a std a reason to own one and pretend. But hey, be that guy pre-reving your engine as you down shift, no big deal...You double clutch, i'll granny shift ok? Whatever.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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I toe and heel downshift when I take my evo to the track on the road, I really don't care as much becasue I don't downshift into high RPMs. If I'm stopping my 135i quickly on the road or at any speed in the snow I blip the gas everytime, without it the rear wheels lock momentarily, gets kinda scary.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
Have you compared the time required to swap brake-pads vs replace a clutch?

Add in that good habits need to be practiced consistently (on the track and when driving to work)and I'll keep rev-matching my down-shifts, thanks.

Are the brake pads/rotors mounted differently than on anything else? I did all 4 of mine on my BMW in a few hours. I would think a clutch would be much more difficult especially if you don't have a lift.

How much does it usually cost to replace a clutch in an Evo?


Oh and I don't have one yet but I rev-match in my Jeep and my BMW
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Old May 21, 2013 | 05:08 AM
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I rev match but thats just me and i like doing it!
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:15 AM
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I downshift on a regular basis, but don't always let it engage in the lower gear. It's just habit to walk the shifter down as I slow down.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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When I downshift I usually do it when the car hits about 2k rpm's. When I let off the clutch it switches gears pretty smoothly, not much jerking at all. Is this habit wrong? It's better for the car if I bleep the throttle and then let off the clutch?
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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You should always rev match at least if your downshifting, less stress. Not o mention brakes are cheaper than a clutch
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Old May 21, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by illogicalmind
You should always rev match at least if your downshifting, less stress. Not o mention brakes are cheaper than a clutch
Well thats what I'm saying. If you are downshifting at 2k rpm's, and the car transitions that shift smoothly, are you rev matching the engine?
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Old May 21, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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I never bother downshifting when coming to a complete stop, I just ride out whichever gear I'm in to about 1k rpms. I do downshift with a throttle blip if I'm slowing down but will keep going.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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I usually downshift by rev matching. But if I am turning into a driveway or a place wheres there's people around I just let the RPMS drop and I slowly let off the clutch, i love it since I get little gurgles and mini pops while slowing down (less than 15 MPH)

When i am slowing down for a stop sign i just put it in natural and coast.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by meckert
And there it is....go for the personal attack when you don't know what your talking about... someone else mentioned sycro mesh trans's-- a technology that eliminated the need for rev matching 70 years ago. The truth became obvious when you mentioned "jerking around doing routine ops"--- well back to learning how to drive a std and problem solved.. You talk like everyone is having this jerky problem shifting their cars, and that ferrari and nissan have solved the problem with some new electronic tech--well maybe for the 80+K they gave those that couldnt drive a std a reason to own one and pretend. But hey, be that guy pre-reving your engine as you down shift, no big deal...You double clutch, i'll granny shift ok? Whatever.
370z's aren't 80k+. He's not talking about the double clutch transmission on GTR's. Personally, I consider blipping the throttle when doing a considerable downshift part of the "learning to drive a standard" you say others need to do.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DizzyPA
I never bother downshifting when coming to a complete stop, I just ride out whichever gear I'm in to about 1k rpms. I do downshift with a throttle blip if I'm slowing down but will keep going.
This is very popular and it's probably never going to be a problem, but here is why you shouldn't do that: what if you're about to be rear-ended?
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Old May 21, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
This is very popular and it's probably never going to be a problem, but here is why you shouldn't do that: what if you're about to be rear-ended?
Let them hit you and order a Do-Luck?
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Old May 21, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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I just discovered (unfortunately being a newer clutch driver here in my evo) that like some have said, if you leave your foot on the gas when you're keeping a constant speed in a gear, and the press down the clutch, the revs will slowly rise until you just release the clutch at the desired rpm. It makes for a smooth downshift and you don't lower your speed which could be good or bad depending on the situation. Im sure that as I get better, I will want to just blip the gas and be in gear, but for security and my clutch, Im doing this for a while.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Does anyone here other than me shift without clutch during daily/casual driving, whether it be up or down shift?
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