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khmerguyx Sep 27, 2013 02:00 PM

Mods with serious gains on stock turbo
 
So guys just wondering what is the absolute must to get MODs on a stock turbo? At first I was thinking:

TBE
Intake
Bigger Intercooler kit
EBC
& A tune

IWOA if you're out there said an intake is not really needed unless you go with a turbo upgrade. Im planning to keep stock turbo for a long time but would like to get MODs that gives me the best gains.

Thank you all

Iowa999 Sep 27, 2013 02:53 PM

Not sure who IWOA is and Kracka is the local mod who knows power much better, but I'm pretty sure that an EBC is not at all needed and letting the ECU control boost is much better.

Get rid of the OE cat and get a tune would be the top two on my personal list.

TrogdorWBL Sep 27, 2013 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by khmerguyx (Post 10971588)
So guys just wondering what is the absolute must to get MODs on a stock turbo? At first I was thinking:

TBE
Intake
Bigger Intercooler kit
EBC
& A tune

IWOA if you're out there said an intake is not really needed unless you go with a turbo upgrade. Im planning to keep stock turbo for a long time but would like to get MODs that gives me the best gains.

Thank you all

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You live in Minnesota. We have corn here! 1000cc Injectors, 255 fuel pump, e85 tune, delete cat. Welcome to 325WHP for $2000 or less.

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You don't need a full turbo back unless you get a new turbo. The big thing you don't need there is the down pipe. The stock down pipe is fine for the stock turbo. I would for sure delete the cat. Again, you live in MN. We have no emissions testing.

I agree, an intake isn't that important unless you just want that cool noise, or you just have a extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket. Intakes are designed to help flow of air to your turbo. That's something that is important once your turbo is actually taking in more air (like with a bigger turbo).

The stock intercooler is fine for the stock turbo. FMIC and DP are things you should do at the same time you upgrade your turbo.

I wouldn't waste money on an electronic boost controller. If you're not running man-boost (35+ pounds) there's really no need to ever turn it down. However, do drive over to Grimmspeed (they're having a car meet soon!) and pick up a 3 port for like $80.

Obviously, a tune. I'd recommend Ron at RS Motors in Burnsville of highway 13.

Of course, if you'd had a knowledgeable, local, sales guy, you would know all this already ;)

Alpha X Sep 28, 2013 10:38 AM

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ddawg1130 Sep 28, 2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Iowa999 (Post 10971633)
Not sure who IWOA is and Kracka is the local mod who knows power much better, but I'm pretty sure that an EBC is not at all needed and letting the ECU control boost is much better.

Get rid of the OE cat and get a tune would be the top two on my personal list.

you do realize that the ECU controls boost with an EBC, right?

rjfg Sep 28, 2013 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by TrogdorWBL (Post 10971825)
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Sorta
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You live in Minnesota. We have corn here! 1000cc Injectors, 255 fuel pump, e85 tune, delete cat. Welcome to 325WHP for $2000 or less.

IMAGE TOO BIG (Removed)

You don't need a full turbo back unless you get a new turbo. The big thing you don't need there is the down pipe. The stock down pipe is fine for the stock turbo. I would for sure delete the cat. Again, you live in MN. We have no emissions testing.

I agree, an intake isn't that important unless you just want that cool noise, or you just have a extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket. Intakes are designed to help flow of air to your turbo. That's something that is important once your turbo is actually taking in more air (like with a bigger turbo).

The stock intercooler is fine for the stock turbo. FMIC and DP are things you should do at the same time you upgrade your turbo.

I wouldn't waste money on an electronic boost controller. If you're not running man-boost (35+ pounds) there's really no need to ever turn it down. However, do drive over to Grimmspeed (they're having a car meet soon!) and pick up a 3 port for like $80.

Obviously, a tune. I'd recommend Ron at RS Motors in Burnsville of highway 13.

Of course, if you'd had a knowledgeable, local, sales guy, you would know all this already ;)

You realize eliminatibg the stock downpipe and the cat abd doibg a full 3in will bgive you the best gains. Why the hell would you wabt the stock downpipe....

TrogdorWBL Sep 29, 2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by rjfg (Post 10972366)
You realize eliminatibg the stock downpipe and the cat abd doibg a full 3in will bgive you the best gains. Why the hell would you wabt the stock downpipe....

The stock turbo isn't pushing enough to warranty a wide mouth down pipe. You won't get gains that are significant enough to warrant the money spent vs. just doing a test pipe on a stock down pipe and turbo. There are other things you can spend $400 to give you better gains than a down pipe on a stock turbo. Take the $400 for the DP and the $400 for the intake and replace that with 1000cc injectors, and a 255 fuel pump for E85.

rjfg Sep 29, 2013 09:37 AM

You can find a downpipe for less then 400. In the long run its a metal pipe. Ebay that metal pipe and reinforce the welds if need be. I ran one on my old mazdaspeed6 and never hsd an issue. Its one thing running an ebay cat but an empty pipe is another.

ReaperX Sep 29, 2013 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by ddawg1130 (Post 10972348)
you do realize that the ECU controls boost with an EBC, right?

You do realize an EBC works independent of the ECU, right? An EBCS, like a grimmspeed or gm 3-port, works with the ECU to control boost.

Iowa999 Sep 29, 2013 12:05 PM

Sorry, folks. Relax. I read it as MBC, even after typing "EBC."

khmerguyx Sep 29, 2013 12:35 PM

Thanks for the tips guy.
I wanted to stick with pump gas bobby (I hope that's your name trogdor lol)
And sorry I meant Iowa lol

TrogdorWBL Sep 29, 2013 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by khmerguyx (Post 10972765)
Thanks for the tips guy.
I wanted to stick with pump gas bobby (I hope that's your name trogdor lol)
And sorry I meant Iowa lol

Yes, it is.

Duel map, yo! Ron will set you up on a pedal switch for pump gas or corn.

Turn car on to accessory, push pedal, switch map, done. No more worries about how to travel farther than 200 miles.

khmerguyx Sep 29, 2013 08:27 PM

Yea I thought about that too.

Does Maperformance do tunes? If so how is it compared to RS?

Uscbryan Sep 30, 2013 01:36 PM

Well you said "serious gains" but I guess that is relative. The most serious gain you will get for $ to HP I think is E. Is there a reason you don't want to convert?

The intake was actually the first thing I did. It was a cheap way to a coolish sound. Went ETC. My friend and I with basically similar mods except he has a drop in filter got tuned at the same place. I came out about 15 more hp with less boost. Take it for what it's worth. Could just be the cars, the weather or maybe the intake. Not sure.

stryderlis Sep 30, 2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by khmerguyx (Post 10973126)
Yea I thought about that too.

Does Maperformance do tunes? If so how is it compared to RS?

MAP does do tunes but from what I know, most pple in MN go to RS or DB.


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