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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Question regarding Volk TE37 and Offset

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I could find anything on it.

Anyways, I want to pull the trigger on a set. Before i do though my question is why do some sets look deeper than others? Is due to offset, width? Maybe I'm just seeing things?

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these seem deeper inside


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These are really deep, but the only reason I could think of them being that deep is due to them being 19". They are +12, but I've seen +12 and they were not that deep.

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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The size wheel, width, and off set is what makes them different from each other. If its the same specs then it would be your eyes playing tricks on you. Sometimes black looks deeper than white just because you can see more contrast.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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The size wheel, width, and off set is what makes them different from each other. If its the same specs then it would be your eyes playing tricks on you. Sometimes black looks deeper than white just because you can see more contrast.

Ok, so take for instance the last picture.

It's a 19x10.5 +12

and the picture above it is 18x10.5 +15

Because of the 19" its going to be deeper?
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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"The offset, measured in millimeters, can be negative or positive, and is the distance from the hub-mounting surface to the rim's true centerline. A positive offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the outside edge of the wheel, i.e. the wheel wraps around the hub and brake hardware more deeply; a negative offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the inside edge of the wheel and wheel sticks outwards more than inwards. When selecting aftermarket wheels, a wheel with too little positive offset will be closer to the fender, and one with too much positive offset will be closer to the suspension components. Wheel width, offset and tire size all determine the way a particular wheel/tire combination will work on a given car. Offset also affects the scrub radius of the steering and it is advisable to stay within the limits allowed by the vehicle manufacturer. Because wheel offset changes the lever-arm length between the center of the tire and the centerline of the steering knuckle, the way bumps, road imperfections and acceleration and braking forces are translated to steering torques (bump-steer, torque-steer, etc) will change depending on wheel offset. Likewise, the wheel bearings will see increased thrust loads if the wheel centerline is moved away from the bearing centerline." - Wikipedia
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by R Lar
Ok, so take for instance the last picture.

It's a 19x10.5 +12

and the picture above it is 18x10.5 +15

Because of the 19" its going to be deeper?
The 18 would be deeper because of the higher positive offset I believe. Although not by much.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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firstly , all volks TE37 19" will look different from 18" because they design the 19" to have a flatter face so you can have the deep dish look.

For 18" , all their look will be concave starting from 18x9 +28 onwards i think. The more wider you go , the bigger allowance there is to concave. That being said , the offset of the wheel have to be relatively low for the offset. For instance , i think the 18x9.5 +22's concavity will be similar to 18x10.5 +22.

For those two photos you've posted up there for 18x10.5 +15 , the white te37 looks more concave is most likely due to the very stretched tires to make it fit the IX. I got a feeling that white is running 245 or 255/40 whereas the black one would be running minimum 265/35

If your in for the concave look , 18x10.5 +15 is the way to go for TE37
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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for te37 specific... as soon as you get to +15, any smaller offset just adds lip, not concavity. The concavity maxes out at +15 so the reason for the lip on the 19'' is the fact that there is added lip not concavity. as far as you thinking the same exact size has different lips/concavity? no, they dont like mentioned above your eyes just tricks.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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So, 18x9.5 +15 wouldnt be far too different from a 10.5. Would it? I'm also guessing that either size will require fenders to be rolled and pulled?


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firstly , all volks TE37 19" will look different from 18" because they design the 19" to have a flatter face so you can have the deep dish look.

For 18" , all their look will be concave starting from 18x9 +28 onwards i think. The more wider you go , the bigger allowance there is to concave. That being said , the offset of the wheel have to be relatively low for the offset. For instance , i think the 18x9.5 +22's concavity will be similar to 18x10.5 +22.

For those two photos you've posted up there for 18x10.5 +15 , the white te37 looks more concave is most likely due to the very stretched tires to make it fit the IX. I got a feeling that white is running 245 or 255/40 whereas the black one would be running minimum 265/35

If your in for the concave look , 18x10.5 +15 is the way to go for TE37

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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If I were to go with a 18x9.5, I would go with a et20 offset on that specific wheel. Then you wouldn't have to worry about rubbing or rolling fenders, unless your car is dropped super low.

So yea, 18x9.5 et 20 or 22 would be good.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by R Lar
So, 18x9.5 +15 wouldnt be far too different from a 10.5. Would it? I'm also guessing that either size will require fenders to be rolled and pulled?
of course it will, it's another inch wider. they will look quite a bit different due to the added lip on the 10.5. Tire size plays a huge role in fender modification.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Thanks guys! I'm a total newb when it comes to wheels, offsets, and tires. But I think i might pull the trigger on 18x10.5 +15 or 18x9.5 +22

Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by R Lar
Thanks guys! I'm a total newb when it comes to wheels, offsets, and tires. But I think i might pull the trigger on 18x10.5 +15 or 18x9.5 +22

Thanks again!

^^these 2 sizes DO have different concave on the spokes... but the Lip is the SAME for the TE37 in these sizes. The reason it appears that the 10.5s have a bigger lip is because the larger 10.5s have more concave, thus the spokes cave downward more giving that bigger lip illusion.

Unlike the RE30, the TE37 has no name for concavity or lip.

I've owned both sizes and I just want you to make the right decision so when you get your wheels you are not dissapointed.

here is a thread dedicated to them... if you want the most concave then go with the 18x10.5 +15. The lip size will not change though.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...37-thread.html
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Thanks man! Appreciate it! I dont want to be dissapointed before spending a big chunk of money on these things Thus why I created a thread.


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^^these 2 sizes DO have different concave on the spokes... but the Lip is the SAME for the TE37 in these sizes. The reason it appears that the 10.5s have a bigger lip is because the larger 10.5s have more concave, thus the spokes cave downward more giving that bigger lip illusion.

Unlike the RE30, the TE37 has no name for concavity or lip.

I've owned both sizes and I just want you to make the right decision so when you get your wheels you are not dissapointed.

here is a thread dedicated to them... if you want the most concave then go with the 18x10.5 +15. The lip size will not change though.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...37-thread.html
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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18x10.5 +15 will look baller but you'll need a set of coilovers to drop the car and dial in the camber to make it look nice , if not i'll just look like a 4WD
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