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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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California Model EVO?

Is the 05 EVO sold in California designated CA Model? If true is it speed limited? please verify. This would be a grave concern for me I do not want a speed limited model.

can somebody look under the hood of there California EVO and see if it states 50 state or California cert.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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My 05 MR is 50 state legal.

Not 100% sure about GSR, but I'd assume so too.
Not sure about speed limiter either.

Hope that helps at least.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Your post implies that Calif. requires a speed governor. I have never heard of any such thing. My 50-state legal S4 is governed at 155 mph and my (now deceased) 350Z was governed at 156 mph. Those are choices Audi and Nissan made as manufacturers. BMW, Mercedes and Audi all voluntarily govern all their European cars at 155 mph, to avoid government regulation. The S4 that comes to the USA has the same governor.

As far as I know, there is no governor on my '04 RS, and I believe the theoretical top speed is about 160 mph. I base that estimate on the fact that you are going 80+ mph in 5th gear at 3500 rpm, and the redline is 7000 rpm, so just double the speed at 3500 rpm.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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All Evo's are electronically governed to 156mph unless you have the ECU reprogrammed :-)
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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i laugh when i read posts like this... why the hell would you care if the car is speed governed at 150mph. Are you going to drive that fast on the highway???? And if you are racing, are you even going to get up to that speed? So why do you care if the car is speed governed or not? Stupid reason not to buy an Evo if that is the holdback.

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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BACAUSE this is a way for the manufacturer to save cost by not having to put as much money into the parts. example; the driveline would not have to be overbuilt.
150 mph is not issue, but 115-120 mph you have to drive that fast to keep from being run off the road on the way to VEGAS.

I saw this speed limited Ca car issue on another post. If I had a choice between a speed limited or a car with a high top speed I would take the latter.

In Ca you have loads of bank robbers and this will hurt re-sale value

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by zmeli
BACAUSE this is a way for the manufacturer to save cost by not having to put as much money into the parts. example; the driveline would not have to be overbuilt.

I saw this speed limited Ca car issue on another post. If I had a choice between a speed limited or a car with a high top speed I would take the latter.

In Ca you have loads of bank robbers and this will hurt re-sale value

I don't think you'll have to worry about it.... just look at Vishnu's and WORKS shop car. They kick *** and they both reside in california. I don't think its a big deal. And all Evo's are the same.

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I can not elaborate now as to why I am asking, I just need to make a decision.

another 04 RS or 05 RS. Vishnu told me to get the 05'er. so I will take their advice. I have not been able to see the 05'r RS on the lots yet.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by zmeli
BACAUSE this is a way for the manufacturer to save cost by not having to put as much money into the parts. example; the driveline would not have to be overbuilt.
150 mph is not issue, but 115-120 mph you have to drive that fast to keep from being run off the road on the way to VEGAS.

I saw this speed limited Ca car issue on another post. If I had a choice between a speed limited or a car with a high top speed I would take the latter.

In Ca you have loads of bank robbers and this will hurt re-sale value
Do you really think on a low volume car that a manufacturer will spec and test two different components of different qualities, inventory and change over production lines based on destination state just to save a couple dollars. The cost of the changeover would far outweigh any"cost benefits"
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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I do know that Toyota made changes to the Supra for California Models. Different manifolds ECU maps, fuel injection. You could not get a 6-speed in california (1998)
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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I have hit 152 mph in my S4. I backed off because I didn't want to hit the 155 mph speed governor. Its such an easy car to drive fast.

Hope the info that the EVO is governed at 156 mph (and not something lower) is true. That is very near the theoretical top speed of about 160 mph anyway. Not much reason to get your ECU flashed just to increase top speed 4 mph.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zmeli
I do know that Toyota made changes to the Supra for California Models. Different manifolds ECU maps, fuel injection. You could not get a 6-speed in california (1998)
This was initially done for emissions purposes. It was not done to cut costs or lower quality, in fact the California versions at that time cost more to manufacture. That is why 50 state compliant cars are now commonplace.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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i laugh when i read posts like this... why the hell would you care if the car is speed governed at 150mph. Are you going to drive that fast on the highway???? And if you are racing, are you even going to get up to that speed? So why do you care if the car is speed governed or not? Stupid reason not to buy an Evo if that is the holdback.

Nebo
Most tuners need to know this, because they sometimes test their speed on tracks.

Like TopSecrets. They went something like 210mph in Germany, before they got arrested. The owner was driving it. It's sick, I love TOp Secret Supra.

I tried to go over 150, but I keep mis-firing.

I don't think it's a stupid reason. Some people buy their Ferrari's because it could go over 200 mph.

I was up to 150 + mph before and it's amazing considering that you have a tiny bitty 4 banger.

have you seen the BMW inline engines? They're about 4 times bigger than our engine! lol
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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This was initially done for emissions purposes. It was not done to cut costs or lower quality, in fact the California versions at that time cost more to manufacture. That is why 50 state compliant cars are now commonplace.
What I was saying did not pertain to the EVO. A car that is speed limited will not require the same parts specs of a non-limited car. EX a 240sx being limited to 108MPH can be built for less money.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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What I was saying did not pertain to the EVO. A car that is speed limited will not require the same parts specs of a non-limited car. EX a 240sx being limited to 108MPH can be built for less money.
Dude, hows this. There is not "California" Evo. You are also a paranoid conspiratist.
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