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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Howdy. Pulled the trigger, got IX MR for 31.5k. It's like lala land, I hardly believe that it's actually my car. I've walked up to my car in the parking lot several times with that feeling of meeting the car for the very first time. That it feels so strange is what makes it seem so cool.

Anyway, two things about the car:
1. Who are those people that say the Evo is an unlivable car? I've devoured every single magazine article written about the car and my overall impression is that the Evo would be too rough, too loud, too much as a day-to-day car. Hardly so. It rides better than my (admittedly modded) E34 BMW.

2. When the engineering and design folks gave the car its final ok, who ok'd the rediculously truck-like turning radius?

I freaking love this car. Period.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Yea our turning radius sucks, lol.. but its not like it matters all that much, making u-turns is ok with 2 lane roads.

i love my evo 9 mr, btw u got n amazing price, considering when i got my first 9 mr (one of the first in florida) it was about 38k, and so was my second one.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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would someone mind explaining the differences between some of the abreviations i see? RA, GG, etc. i'm guessing they are different mitsubishi-internal chassis designations. also, can someone point me to a definitive exhaust thread he or she might remember? after searching the word exhaust, i figured i'd have to sort through all the old posts or posts without much meaningful contribution for an hour before seeing something worthwhile (i am pretty new to the evo, so i'm hoping to lessen the learning curve through people's real world experience). same for suspension, i'm hoping to find the proper way to maybe take an inch or so off the ride height without making a mess of a fairly decent OEM suspension while not having to just pony up for vishnu ohlins. thanks!
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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welcome to the forum!! i'll get ya started instead of telling you to search like everybody else would
exhaust thread
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=Exhaust
abbreviations
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=abbreviations
edit:i just realized this isn't a very good thread for abbreviations but you get the point

i will tell you though, take the time to get used to the advanced search,
don't just click the search button and type in what your looking for because
then you will get every thread that has your entered word in it, which would be alot,
hit advanced search then on the left type in what your looking for, click the pop down menu,
change that to Search Titles Only then you can even change it to search only the forums
you want to look in to narrow it down even more, sorry to bore you with the intricacys of the
search feature but i'm very bored myself hope this helps you

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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thanks for the recommendations. as an excuse, i'm not stupid, just lazy where i wont take the effort to learn how to properly search. i didnt know about the advanced search, so that helps quite a bit. anyways, instead of posting, im going out to continue breaking in the car.

by the way, as i break in the motor, i do closed-throttle decels. it seems like the evo does not have much engine braking effect. is that due to the DBW keeping the throttle partly open (though my foot is totally off of the pedal)? or am i imagining things?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Glad to have you on the boards! Check out DCevoclub lots of good poeple on that forum.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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thanks for the recommendations. as an excuse, i'm not stupid, just lazy where i wont take the effort to learn how to properly search.
then prepare to be flamed then for asking ?'s that have been answered 1million times.
not sure about engine braking during break-in, i was always told unless done properly its not that great for the car
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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one thing i never understood about forum boards - why bother flaming anyone? if you think that the message posted isnt interesting or worth your while or even annoying, why pay further heed to it by flaming? i just usually hit the back button and move on.

thanks for the help, though. as i said, the advanced search feature should help quite a bit. btw, who told you that engine braking during break-in isnt that great for the car? maybe i could talk to him about how he recommends seating the rings and what manuals and experience he goes by.

thanks for the reference deepseadiver, sounds like a good local source. are you on there?

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CleverUserName

2. When the engineering and design folks gave the car its final ok, who ok'd the rediculously truck-like turning radius?

I freaking love this car. Period.
Speaking as an engineer:

Engineering is about coming up with a solution to a mechanical issue that is timely, cost efficient, and capable to do the job and lasting for a determined amount of time. This is done by research and development, but mainly through calcs relying on physics, math, and other mediums of education.

That being said there are trade-offs for everything, period. The Evos large turning radius is a result of it being awd, its front suspension geometry and clearence, and its quick steering rack. Small price to pay for possibly one of the best power assisted steering systems. (the elise is better, but no power assist in that one)

By the way, RA and GG are hardly chassis designations. Those are color abbreviations,
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Speaking as an engineer:

Engineering is about coming up with a solution to a mechanical issue that is timely, cost efficient, and capable to do the job and lasting for a determined amount of time. This is done by research and development, but mainly through calcs relying on physics, math, and other mediums of education.

That being said there are trade-offs for everything, period. The Evos large turning radius is a result of it being awd, its front suspension geometry and clearence, and its quick steering rack. Small price to pay for possibly one of the best power assisted steering systems. (the elise is better, but no power assist in that one)

By the way, RA and GG are hardly chassis designations. Those are color abbreviations,
yeah i just figured that out. i saw GG on the official graphite grey thread and had a moment of clarity then felt really silly.

as an engineer and economist by training and a pilot by profession, i know what you mean when it comes to the methodical approaches and the choices one makes from a list of priorities.

obviously nobody didnt buy an evo because of its turning radius. the evo is full of personality and learning the quirky little things is fun.

though i still laugh when i have to make a 3-point u turn.

seems like this is gonna be a pretty good forum to be a part of.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CleverUserName
yeah i just figured that out. i saw GG on the official graphite grey thread and had a moment of clarity then felt really silly.

as an engineer and economist by training and a pilot by profession, i know what you mean when it comes to the methodical approaches and the choices one makes from a list of priorities.

obviously nobody didnt buy an evo because of its turning radius. the evo is full of personality and learning the quirky little things is fun.

though i still laugh when i have to make a 3-point u turn.

seems like this is gonna be a pretty good forum to be a part of.
The 3 point turn is all part of the fun! I know what your saying though, it is frustrating sometimes. All is forgotten on the track or during an autocross though.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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tristar - what engineering field are you in?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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there's a little bit of snow out today, though for the most part it isn't accumulating. it certainly is wet though which means lets run some experiments on ACD. it seems like the gravel settings biases torque forward. in any event, on-power steering response seemed to improve and there seemed to be less understeer. it has been a while since i had a fwd, so the throttle lift-off response that i'm getting is still a little foreign. i expected more on-power understeer and lift-off rotation. im finding the car tucks in with slight rotation (more pronounced in tarmac than gravel, while in the wet) upon lifting off and minor understeer on-power (an understeer that mostly goes away in the gravel setting, while wet).

anyway, im posting this to make sense of my experience. i know that there are a lot more experienced evo drivers out there and id like to compare notes to double check my interpretations of how the car acts. i'm trying to figure out a couple of fixes.

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CleverUserName
tristar - what engineering field are you in?
Mechanical engineering.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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lit up all four wheels. that was fun!
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