EVO to STi... my buddy is about to do it!
Tell your friend to go buy a Toyota Corolla or something.
I got my old 92 Corolla at 89,000 miles back in College. My sister and mom put it up to 180,000 miles. And guess what? They just take it in for oil changes.
Point of the fact is, any car can be reliable.... if you take care of it.
If your buddy doesn't want an Evo, but wants an STI but expects it to be in good working condition, tell him to wake up. Unless he buys a completely brand new STI from the getgo, all used cars are going to have problems.
And from what you are telling me, since he doesn't have a job, he won't be getting a "new" anything, anytime soon.
Tell him to go get a reliable beater. Get a Civic or Corolla. And even if the old beater does get broke down, it definitely will be a lot cheaper to fix than an Evo or STI.
I got my old 92 Corolla at 89,000 miles back in College. My sister and mom put it up to 180,000 miles. And guess what? They just take it in for oil changes.
Point of the fact is, any car can be reliable.... if you take care of it.
If your buddy doesn't want an Evo, but wants an STI but expects it to be in good working condition, tell him to wake up. Unless he buys a completely brand new STI from the getgo, all used cars are going to have problems.
And from what you are telling me, since he doesn't have a job, he won't be getting a "new" anything, anytime soon.
Tell him to go get a reliable beater. Get a Civic or Corolla. And even if the old beater does get broke down, it definitely will be a lot cheaper to fix than an Evo or STI.
why doesnt he just get those things fixed or upgraded. it is so much easier to work on an evo.
trust me i have worked on and upgraded sti, not the funnest job, and definitely takes longer. key point why do i want to remove my tires to change the spark plugs!!!!!!!!
stcik with an evo if he doesnt want a hard time replacing things
trust me i have worked on and upgraded sti, not the funnest job, and definitely takes longer. key point why do i want to remove my tires to change the spark plugs!!!!!!!!
stcik with an evo if he doesnt want a hard time replacing things
yah the 07 runs lean as crap my friend just sold his 07 sti for a GTO he was sick of it the turbo was to small and he had a aps front mount wastegate all this crap the turbo was just taking to much he blew his motor from over boosting and put about 10k into and sold it 2 days later for 24k the car only have 25k miles and was back to base oh and the sti ecu BLOWS cause he had a flash tune and he still blew the motor with just the TBE 
sad EVO is way better
sad EVO is way betteri owned a sti and it was a fun car but it didn't meet the needs i wanted it to. its hard to make power without spending alot when it comes to subarus. but aside from the 07's if you leave them relatively stock (tbe & intake with a cobb ap) then they will be reliable.
just my .02
Alright, well... my friend has a 2003 Apex Silver VIII. It is stock and thus far in a year of ownership he has not driven it much because of the need for a new clutch, new brakes... and one thing after another. He is considering a used STi and getting rid of his EVO. I was wondering if anyone has done this, or come FROM an STi... it would be good to hear exactly why you made the move you made. This car is going to be his only and he is interest in the most durable, managable for daily driving but does not want to sacrafice the performance part. I would like to bring a productive thread on this topic to him to help him out so he doesn't do something he will regret.
IMO the STi is the better daily driver. However the EVO is the superior track car. I miss the low end torque of the STi, but the handling of the EVO more than makes up for it.
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Tell your friend to go buy a Toyota Corolla or something.
I got my old 92 Corolla at 89,000 miles back in College. My sister and mom put it up to 180,000 miles. And guess what? They just take it in for oil changes.
Point of the fact is, any car can be reliable.... if you take care of it.
If your buddy doesn't want an Evo, but wants an STI but expects it to be in good working condition, tell him to wake up. Unless he buys a completely brand new STI from the getgo, all used cars are going to have problems.
And from what you are telling me, since he doesn't have a job, he won't be getting a "new" anything, anytime soon.
Tell him to go get a reliable beater. Get a Civic or Corolla. And even if the old beater does get broke down, it definitely will be a lot cheaper to fix than an Evo or STI.
I got my old 92 Corolla at 89,000 miles back in College. My sister and mom put it up to 180,000 miles. And guess what? They just take it in for oil changes.
Point of the fact is, any car can be reliable.... if you take care of it.
If your buddy doesn't want an Evo, but wants an STI but expects it to be in good working condition, tell him to wake up. Unless he buys a completely brand new STI from the getgo, all used cars are going to have problems.
And from what you are telling me, since he doesn't have a job, he won't be getting a "new" anything, anytime soon.
Tell him to go get a reliable beater. Get a Civic or Corolla. And even if the old beater does get broke down, it definitely will be a lot cheaper to fix than an Evo or STI.
Alright, well... my friend has a 2003 Apex Silver VIII. It is stock and thus far in a year of ownership he has not driven it much because of the need for a new clutch, new brakes... and one thing after another. He is considering a used STi and getting rid of his EVO. I was wondering if anyone has done this, or come FROM an STi... it would be good to hear exactly why you made the move you made. This car is going to be his only and he is interest in the most durable, managable for daily driving but does not want to sacrafice the performance part. I would like to bring a productive thread on this topic to him to help him out so he doesn't do something he will regret.
Tell him its called REGULAR maintenance and it must be performed on sports cars to keep them on the road
Tell him to trade it in on a civic or something, so an "enthusiast" can purchase it.
read this ......
http://www.leftlanenews.com/subaru-i...bo-engine.html **link**
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Subaru issues temporary stop sale on all vehicles equipped with 2.5L turbo engine
April7
Subaru of America has issued a stop sale on all models equipped with the company's 2.5L turbocharged four-cylinder engine. The stop sale — which affects Forester, Legacy and Impreza vehicles equipped with the engine built in January and February — is due to a potential engine wear issue.
According to the stop sale order issued to all U.S. Subaru dealers, in markets outside of the U.S., Subaru has received complaints of an engine knock in vehicles equipped with the 2.5L turbo engine. After investigating, Subaru determined that the engine noise was due to engine wear and has since discovered which batches of vehicles are at risk of being equipped with the faulty component.
No U.S. models have been reported to have the problem, but Subaru wants to ensure it's not selling its customers faulty vehicles.
The defect is said not to impact vehicles with the naturally aspirated version of the 2.5L or any other displacement engines.
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Subaru issues temporary stop sale on all vehicles equipped with 2.5L turbo engine
April7
Subaru of America has issued a stop sale on all models equipped with the company's 2.5L turbocharged four-cylinder engine. The stop sale — which affects Forester, Legacy and Impreza vehicles equipped with the engine built in January and February — is due to a potential engine wear issue.
According to the stop sale order issued to all U.S. Subaru dealers, in markets outside of the U.S., Subaru has received complaints of an engine knock in vehicles equipped with the 2.5L turbo engine. After investigating, Subaru determined that the engine noise was due to engine wear and has since discovered which batches of vehicles are at risk of being equipped with the faulty component.
No U.S. models have been reported to have the problem, but Subaru wants to ensure it's not selling its customers faulty vehicles.
The defect is said not to impact vehicles with the naturally aspirated version of the 2.5L or any other displacement engines.
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Laurel, MD
why doesnt he just get those things fixed or upgraded. it is so much easier to work on an evo.
trust me i have worked on and upgraded sti, not the funnest job, and definitely takes longer. key point why do i want to remove my tires to change the spark plugs!!!!!!!!
stcik with an evo if he doesnt want a hard time replacing things
trust me i have worked on and upgraded sti, not the funnest job, and definitely takes longer. key point why do i want to remove my tires to change the spark plugs!!!!!!!!
stcik with an evo if he doesnt want a hard time replacing things
While they aren't in the easiest of spots to get to you can still easily get to the spark plugs by removing the stock airbox on the passenger side, and the washer fluid tank on the passenger side.
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
From: Laurel, MD
What is keeping him from the STi is the fact that he does not have a ton of money to mod and the EVO offers double the HP for the same buck in regards to simple bolts ons... TBE, Flash... Tune... whatever. He would be buying a 04-05. He hasn't modded the EVO because he lost his job and couldnt afford anything but now he is fine.
With a TBE and a tune you quickly hit the limits of what the stock turbo can do. After that it's turbo + injectors + fuel pump and most likely a larger intercooler as well.
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
From: Laurel, MD
yah the 07 runs lean as crap my friend just sold his 07 sti for a GTO he was sick of it the turbo was to small and he had a aps front mount wastegate all this crap the turbo was just taking to much he blew his motor from over boosting and put about 10k into and sold it 2 days later for 24k the car only have 25k miles and was back to base oh and the sti ecu BLOWS cause he had a flash tune and he still blew the motor with just the TBE sad EVO is way better
sad EVO is way betterThe stock 07 turbo(VF-43) will be laggy with a large front mount like the 2 that APS makes. The tuner probably tried some tricks to make it feel less laggy but ended up doing some bad things that helped kill your friend's motor.
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
From: Laurel, MD
http://www.leftlanenews.com/subaru-i...bo-engine.html **link**
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Subaru issues temporary stop sale on all vehicles equipped with 2.5L turbo engine
April7
Subaru of America has issued a stop sale on all models equipped with the company's 2.5L turbocharged four-cylinder engine. The stop sale — which affects Forester, Legacy and Impreza vehicles equipped with the engine built in January and February — is due to a potential engine wear issue.
According to the stop sale order issued to all U.S. Subaru dealers, in markets outside of the U.S., Subaru has received complaints of an engine knock in vehicles equipped with the 2.5L turbo engine. After investigating, Subaru determined that the engine noise was due to engine wear and has since discovered which batches of vehicles are at risk of being equipped with the faulty component.
No U.S. models have been reported to have the problem, but Subaru wants to ensure it's not selling its customers faulty vehicles.
The defect is said not to impact vehicles with the naturally aspirated version of the 2.5L or any other displacement engines.
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Subaru issues temporary stop sale on all vehicles equipped with 2.5L turbo engine
April7
Subaru of America has issued a stop sale on all models equipped with the company's 2.5L turbocharged four-cylinder engine. The stop sale — which affects Forester, Legacy and Impreza vehicles equipped with the engine built in January and February — is due to a potential engine wear issue.
According to the stop sale order issued to all U.S. Subaru dealers, in markets outside of the U.S., Subaru has received complaints of an engine knock in vehicles equipped with the 2.5L turbo engine. After investigating, Subaru determined that the engine noise was due to engine wear and has since discovered which batches of vehicles are at risk of being equipped with the faulty component.
No U.S. models have been reported to have the problem, but Subaru wants to ensure it's not selling its customers faulty vehicles.
The defect is said not to impact vehicles with the naturally aspirated version of the 2.5L or any other displacement engines.
Most companies would probably still sell them and then quietly fix them under warranty when they fail.
