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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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B5 S4s

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How fast are B5 S4s? I'm not My friend has an S4 with a 3" TBE, and chip.. SUPPOSEDLY thats it. How much power is it making, and what would it take to beat it? I have a completely stock Evo as it is right now, but I'm slowly modding. Thanks in advance EvoM.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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simple bolt ons and cams with good tune. S4s are very heavy compared to their huuuuuge engines. they slow dude. LMAO.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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My roommate with a Stage 3 s4 would like for you to watch and enjoy this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2KEc4eVPU
tell him to race a well-moddified evo and say something again. not to mention that my friend has an rs-4 with a custom supercharger. kthxbai
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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I had an S4 with APR chip (91 oct., 93 oct., and Valet mode), and AWE Tuning Twin 2 exhaust w/ downpipes.


Basically what S4 guys call a Stage 2 setup.


These cars typically dyno just right around 300 awhp on a Mustang dyno and about 330 awtq.

Considering the S4's weight as previously mentioned (3500 lbs+) a basically modified Evo will be faster.


K04 upgraded S4's dyno around 360 - 370awhp (on 93 pump) and about the same torque.

They run mid to high 11's at 120-123 mph.


Only recently have guys run hybrid RS6 turbos, Garrett GT28's, and I believe TiAL has just released a bolt on turbo kit.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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define "well modified" please??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56_5yO7crM
Does this fit your definition??
HTA35r? 2.0L+HTA35r should be comparable to his BIG S4
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Well modified?

HKS CT230R
Norris Design Evo 9
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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What makes a stage 3 S4 so much faster than that Evo? Isnt it so much heavier?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Well modified?

HKS CT230R
Norris Design Evo 9
So only builds totalling in 6 figures count as well-modified??


Originally Posted by MaxKanisha
What makes a stage 3 S4 so much faster than that Evo? Isnt it so much heavier?
Only about 500lbs heavier.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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So what does a "Stage 3" S4 consist of?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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So what does a "Stage 3" S4 consist of?
European turbos (off a Rs4)
TBE
Fueling upgrade (injectors, tune, etc.)
Intercooler upgrade

thats about it
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKanisha
Hey guys,

How fast are B5 S4s? I'm not My friend has an S4 with a 3" TBE, and chip.. SUPPOSEDLY thats it. How much power is it making, and what would it take to beat it? I have a completely stock Evo as it is right now, but I'm slowly modding. Thanks in advance EvoM.
edit - can't recall what mine dyno'd, been awhile since I had the car. But, had the MTM setup on it, stock turbos.

top end, he will likely walk you, to 60, they are not all that quick

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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What gives them the top end advantage?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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unless he has upgraded turbos you can smoke him.
even then, if you had a cam'd evo you'd still probably put up a damn good fight if not win.

I love how they are all like, dude I'm stage 3....well...whats stage 3 mean? whats a stage 3 evo?
I could have like a TBE, a tune, and like a shortshifter and be like. duuude I'm so stage 3 right now. cant even mess. Stages don't matter for crap, its the actual modifications on the car that matter. Stages are just for dumb kids who don't know what kind of parts go on their car.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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unless he has upgraded turbos you can smoke him.
even then, if you had a cam'd evo you'd still probably put up a damn good fight if not win.

I love how they are all like, dude I'm stage 3....well...whats stage 3 mean? whats a stage 3 evo?
I could have like a TBE, a tune, and like a shortshifter and be like. duuude I'm so stage 3 right now. cant even mess. Stages don't matter for crap, its the actual modifications on the car that matter. Stages are just for dumb kids who don't know what kind of parts go on their car.
a few posts up:
Originally Posted by User Name:
European turbos (off a Rs4)
TBE
Fueling upgrade (injectors, tune, etc.)
Intercooler upgrade

thats about it




Originally Posted by MaxKanisha
What gives them the top end advantage?
twin turbo v6
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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My brother used to have one. Beautiful cars. A chip/tbe is enough to make them quite quick too. And I know I'll take a lot of heat for this, but at the end of the day, it's just plain a nicer car than the Evo IMO.

http://www.s4biturbo.com/timeslips.php

That should give you a good idea of what they run.
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