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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Clutch Suggestions- daily driver

I'm read so many threads, with so many different answers, my head is killing me.

Basically, I have an intake, exhaust, & boost controller (@20psi) on my Evolution. I drive around 70-100 miles a day, with more then half of them in the city (read: stop and go traffic).

I've read a few times that the stock clutch is good for quite a bit of power but mine is slipping unbelieveably bad and I wouldn't imagine I'm putting down that much power. I drive the car hard at times but I don't launch stop light after stop light either.

Basically, I'm trying to figure out if I'm better off with an ACT clutch or Exedy clutch and whether or not I should go with a lightened flywheel... or if I am better off putting another stock clutch in. I drive around way to much with lots of different clients in the car for the car to be stalling out while approaching a light.

cliff notes: need a suggestion on a VERY streetable clutch (oem, exedy, act) and whether or not I should resurface the flywheel or go light.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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IF your done modifying your car and want very very street able, your looking for a full faced disk. I would recommend the Exedy stage 1. I have had bad experiences with ACT. Yes you should resurface your flywheel.

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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Def go with a full-face disc. I have a southbend OFE in my car and do a TON of stop/go traffic and it is awesome for that. However, it SUCKS for launching, so if you ever even remotely dream about launching your car, skip it.

A way better option is the Competition Clutch full disc clutches. The stage2 is cheap but not sure how much power it will ultimately hold. If you plan on doing a few more mods, consider the slightly more expensive Comp Stage3. I have a buddy with this clutch, and it is awesome. Very light pedal pressure, and with light launching it seems to grab nice and hard. He's got a fully modded stock-turbo IX making about 330whp on dyno dynamics and 380-390whp on dynojet.

IMHO skip the stock flywheel resurfacing and pick up one of their lightweight flywheels. For the money its worth getting and won't affect streetability at all.

Just looking at the pricing on MAP's www site, the best bang/buck is def the comp stage2. $330 is just an awesome price for what you get:
http://www.maperformance.com/competi...n-viii-ix.html

The stage3 is about another $100 but if you have a few more mods planned, you may consider it an investment in not having to upgrade your clutch:
http://www.maperformance.com/competi...5106-2300.html

I'm getting their stage4 6-puck whenever my southbend goes out. Considering the southbend was $600 on sale when I got it, all of these look like awesome deals.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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rule out ACT cause they are terible i as many others have one and hate it....excedy twin disk is the way
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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i'm going to be using a HKS GD Max in my car.
Twin plate that engages one disc at a time for drivability.
reasonable price too.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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I am looking for something the op is looking for also. I currently have a quarter master twin disk and man it is a pain to drive everyday.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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Def go with a full-face disc. I have a southbend OFE in my car and do a TON of stop/go traffic and it is awesome for that. However, it SUCKS for launching, so if you ever even remotely dream about launching your car, skip it.

A way better option is the Competition Clutch full disc clutches. The stage2 is cheap but not sure how much power it will ultimately hold. If you plan on doing a few more mods, consider the slightly more expensive Comp Stage3. I have a buddy with this clutch, and it is awesome. Very light pedal pressure, and with light launching it seems to grab nice and hard. He's got a fully modded stock-turbo IX making about 330whp on dyno dynamics and 380-390whp on dynojet.

IMHO skip the stock flywheel resurfacing and pick up one of their lightweight flywheels. For the money its worth getting and won't affect streetability at all.

Just looking at the pricing on MAP's www site, the best bang/buck is def the comp stage2. $330 is just an awesome price for what you get:
http://www.maperformance.com/competi...n-viii-ix.html

The stage3 is about another $100 but if you have a few more mods planned, you may consider it an investment in not having to upgrade your clutch:
http://www.maperformance.com/competi...5106-2300.html

I'm getting their stage4 6-puck whenever my southbend goes out. Considering the southbend was $600 on sale when I got it, all of these look like awesome deals.
Thanks alot for your help. Sounds like definitely the route I want to go, especially the stage III. I would hate to end up putting in a stage II and having to upgrade shortly down the road.

What do you think about keeping the factory flywheel? I have an option with replacing it with an OEM flywheel that will cost me basically next to nothing to have replaced. I'm all for a lightened flywheel, I just don't want to end up with any kind of stalling issues. According to MAPs website, what kind of flywheel would you put in?

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The best clutch and flywheel setup for the money is our ACT HDTTP for $569 and TTP recon flywheel at $109

rated to 700whp and 650 tq. Drives like stock, shifts great and can be used in daily driving and racing.
This is what TTP recommended. What do you think about this?
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Stock flywheel is just fine, but I and others have had such good luck with the lightweight comp units its hard for me to not recommend them

I was really looking at the HDTTP as well, but they cannot seem to provide any info as to what exactly makes it better than the ACT HDG6. HDG6 is a great choice too, but the 6-puck makes it less driveable for some. Unless you're planning on bolting on an upgraded turbo in the very near future, and/or do a lot of launching, I say meh.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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I vote Exedy twin disc. I dd it. Many of my friends dd it. There is a reason it is the number one replacement for the stocker. Feels like the stocker. You can feather and slip it all day long. Holds gobs of torque, comes with it's own flywheel....what's not to like?
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hikaru
I vote Exedy twin disc. I dd it. Many of my friends dd it. There is a reason it is the number one replacement for the stocker. Feels like the stocker. You can feather and slip it all day long. Holds gobs of torque, comes with it's own flywheel....what's not to like?
Besides the price tag, not very much. It is just alot of money to drop on a clutch setup.

Waiting to see on what TTP recommends, either ACT or the CCI. Then it's time to decide on a flywheel.

With my extended warranty, they will basically pay for an OEM flywheel so I can already save myself a couple hundred bucks. How do these clutches seem to hold up with OEM flywheels?
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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We have pulled out tons of competition single discs. They are cheap for a reason. The ones we have had experience with all shift like crap. The only decent clutches from them we have driven is their twindisc which is heavy.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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I would say that you're the ideal candidate for something like the Exedy Stage 1. Definitely stay with a full face. Keep in mind, all too often people are over doing their clutch selection. I have personally installed over 30 of the Competition Stage 2 clutches and have yet to have a single issue. Needless to say if you don't use it in the proper application, it may not be ideal but if I were you, I would have no hesitation at using the Comp Stage 2 or the Exedy Stage 1.

Hope this helps. best of luck.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BaddAssGst
Besides the price tag, not very much. It is just alot of money to drop on a clutch setup.

Waiting to see on what TTP recommends, either ACT or the CCI. Then it's time to decide on a flywheel.

With my extended warranty, they will basically pay for an OEM flywheel so I can already save myself a couple hundred bucks. How do these clutches seem to hold up with OEM flywheels?
Warranty? On an Evo?? What's that?! I here ya man. I don't know anyone that has ran them with a stock flywheel but I suspect they would work just fine. The stock flywheel is a pretty good piece and is pretty light at around 13 lbs. I had an ACT on my VIII with a resurfaced stock flywheel. It was nice. Doesn't compare to the Exedy. I've heard stories about lockout with the ACT but I never experienced it. IMHO, if you are gonna replace something, do it once and do it right. I know the clutch is expensive but we do drive Evos. I wanted to go with something different too but once I drove my buddy's car with the Exedy there was just no way I could say no. Hate to sound cliche but ya gotta pay to play. I recommend you try to drive cars with a couple different clutches in them. Just to get a feel for what you are buying.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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resurfacing the stock flywheel on this application is more than fine. Be sure it's done properly and scuff it up a little before actually installing it and you'll be just fine. Make sure it's clean too!
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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I have an Evo 9.
Someone told me that the stock clutch is a Exedy Stage 1.
Is that true?
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