If you don't mind my asking, what is the point of all the mods and the added power, when the car is used in a sedentary manner?

 

This is the power I'm looking to achieve

 

If that's the case, talk to my when you're ready to sell

 

It isn't sedentary, trust me and anyone that has ridden/driven with me. I just don't rock out with my cack out whenever I'm behind the wheel. I don't track the car and I don't launch. Most of my miles are on the freeway and I don't abuse the clutch and maintain things pretty well I've been told.

I do ensure to hit meth whenever I drive cause the worst thing you can do is not keep the pump flowing. I will likely track the car when I am running a 2.4L (hopefully later this year) and a better clutch, but for now I don't.

I bought the car brand new for $32k and I've put about $8k into it. For a ~$40k car I don't think I've made a mistake yet.

 

These two statements seem to lack congruence. No matter. Perhaps I misunderstood.

 

When I'm behind the wheel I'm not constantly driving hard, cutting people off, hitting triple digits. There is no point in doing this in WA state.

But the car is far from sedentary. Whenever I can hit quick corners on a back road, or I'm on an open road with little traffic, or I can keep the meth flowing, I do it. Unfortunately in the greater Seattle area you can't do that 100% of the time from when you sit down in the car to when you shut off the ignition.

Definition of sedentary: "accustomed to sit or rest a great deal or to take little exercise"

 

Dam you don't have 600awhp on pump 93 octane in your poll ?

 

There's no point to doing that anywhere, not just WA state. Personally, I think it's odd to equate mindlessly reckless behavior with high-performance driving.

No one said that it was. I wrote that it was used in a sedentary manner and that notion was based solely on the comments you've uploaded to this forum. Hence, my initial question. Really, I'm trying to understand why someone would go through an involved mod path. Some folks race and their quest for power is perfectly understandable. Some show their cars and (partially) hinge the results on the bragging rights that come along with all the horses. That makes sense, too. I was merely curious as to why.

You make it sound like the rest of us live in the hicks. FWIW, I live in a metro area about the size of yours.

I know what it means. Given your past comments, as well as the current rationale, it sure doesn't sound like there's a lot of exercise to be had. Like I said before, perhaps I misunderstood.

 

I think I might see where you're going. Personally when I have a specific question I ask it in a specific way. I'll see if I can't help you understand my perspective a bit more since you seem interested in the mindset. As I'm sure you realize, I doubt my mindset will apply to everyone.

I don't know where you've garnered that my car is being used in a sedentary manner based on the comments I've uploaded to this forum. Certainly not the initial comment that I made in this thread.

If you're basing your aforementioned notion off of previous comments of mine in other threads and are curious as to how my car got to where it is now, you would do best to search in the NW section, where I do most of my posting. In that section you will find a build thread that details how I got to where I am today. As stated, I have only spent about $8k on performance parts. More specifically I have done that over the course of almost 4 years.

How I specifically got over 400whp was due to getting close to that mark and being obsessive compulsive enough to force myself over that particular hurdle. A similar path occurred when I didn't quite hit 500whp with the FP-black.

Why I went with the black in the first place is due to the fact that it is similar to a 3582 but with closer to stock spool. My eventual goals were a 2.4L with a 35r, and the black seemed close enough to that goal that I went with it sooner than later. In my mind, it would be future-proof for my goals.

Some people lean more on the side of show mods while I have leaned more heavily on the side of go-fast mods. I also pride myself in what I've spent and the work I've done. What you won't see on my car are 18" bling wheels, canards, JDM rear, etc., though arguably some of those items can help you run faster on a track.

FWIW, I'd guess most people in the DD 400whp - 500whp range don't utilize the power properly, certainly if they don't live in CA, AZ, FL, or elsewhere that they can track all year long. I would assume map switching for maximum fuel consumption when not at the track would be the way to go. Is anyone going to do that? Highly unlikely.

To clarify any comments I made earlier, I was using exaggerated examples to illustrate my point. Had I known you were going somewhere specific with your questioning this could have likely been answered without as much drama as I may have used.

Also I was never inferring that the readers of EvoM live in the "hicks" as you put it. You referring to it as "hicks" and not "sticks" certainly lends credit to your statement of where you live. FWIW - those that reside in the sticks are usually referred to as the hicks. I actually live closer to the hicks in the sticks than the cityfolk, but I do the majority of my driving in the greater Seattle area.

There is enough exercise on my relatively safe build and tune, especially assuming that I keep my car maintained well. I suppose now that you have read that I tend to be obsessive compulsive you could assume that I can get paranoid. With a 2.4L ER built motor and a clutch that is more capable to handle my mods I will feel less paranoid.

Will I continue to chase an ever higher pie in the sky number? Probably not as I don't want to be chasing random drivetrain issues.

*edit - I will likely top 600whp before I'm done, though.

 

x2

 

FWIW, here's a quick example:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/7968332-post11.html

 

^that's a horrible example! What's the point in shifting at high rpm around town, from one traffic light to another?

In any event, we are going pretty far OT but you are more than welcome to PM me.

 

lol thread is interesting for sure that is i wonder where ill be once im done?

 

almost 200 hp at wheels with my d16 civic? >.<

 

A little over 400whp stock turbo but on E85....no option for Ethanol what's up