Looking at going from 07STI to 06MR
Looking at going from 07STI to 06MR
Hey guys, so I've been the proud owner of a 07 STI since early 08. Has about 27k miles on it right now and I'm thinking about going to an EVO.
The car I found was a 06 EVO MR, Apex silver with 18k miles on it and appears all stock. How much would be a good asking price for this car? Assuming nothing beyond some rock chips and maybe a few scratches?
My STI has some mods on it but all in all I am not incredibly happy with it. I want/need an AWD car so the Evo is what I'm looking at. I feel like I need something a little more 'raw' and am tired of always worrying about destroying my little EJ engine. I think the 4g63 would give me a little more piece of mind. I do plan on draging the car a bit and doing AutoX, but no road racing.
Not really sure where I am headed with this post, maybe I just wanted to waste your time reading this. LOL
Anyway it seems like a good deal and a good way to head. I'm sure most will respond with get the EVO, this is an EVO forum after all.
The car I found was a 06 EVO MR, Apex silver with 18k miles on it and appears all stock. How much would be a good asking price for this car? Assuming nothing beyond some rock chips and maybe a few scratches?
My STI has some mods on it but all in all I am not incredibly happy with it. I want/need an AWD car so the Evo is what I'm looking at. I feel like I need something a little more 'raw' and am tired of always worrying about destroying my little EJ engine. I think the 4g63 would give me a little more piece of mind. I do plan on draging the car a bit and doing AutoX, but no road racing.
Not really sure where I am headed with this post, maybe I just wanted to waste your time reading this. LOL
Anyway it seems like a good deal and a good way to head. I'm sure most will respond with get the EVO, this is an EVO forum after all.
http://www.kbb.com/kbb/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=
Kelly Blue book is your friend. $23,385 buying from a private seller in a good condition.
Kelly Blue book is your friend. $23,385 buying from a private seller in a good condition.
Maybe I want someone to say its such a killer deal that I should buy the EVO even though I haven't sold the STI yet, instead of waiting to sell the STI and then having to most likely get another evo that is possibly in poorer condition.
Thats really what I wanted :P
Thats really what I wanted :P
well this was me back in Dec of 2008. I came from an 07 STI myself and I had the horrid hesitation issues which plagued the 07 STis. Anyways, I sold my STI and found my MR with 9k miles in Kentucky at a Toyota Dealership. I paid $25k out the door on Dec 27, 2008. It was stock and super clean.
One word of advice, if you are planning on putting down alot of power on the EVO(over 350 at the wheels),be ready to spend some money on the tranny. I have not modded(and do not plan on) the motor so this has not been an issue for me. My EVO has been very reliable.
The STi has the stronger tranny, the EVO has the stronger motor... I say this as MY OPINION from being an STI owner and owning the EVO for a year and half. I also have the 6 speed MR and not the SE 5 speed.
Clutches are also an issue on EVOs... test drive this EVO and pay attention to the gears on it not grinding as you shift.
Good luck and yes the KBB and NADA are your friends but its good that this is a Mom and Pop dealer and not a Mitsu because they would be asking for like 27k if it was...
Mitsu dealerships are a complete rip off when it comes to everything and I think its a huge factor why alot of people initially look into an EVO and buy a Suby instead.
any other questions just ask but sounds like you found a clean EVO. Good
luck
One word of advice, if you are planning on putting down alot of power on the EVO(over 350 at the wheels),be ready to spend some money on the tranny. I have not modded(and do not plan on) the motor so this has not been an issue for me. My EVO has been very reliable.
The STi has the stronger tranny, the EVO has the stronger motor... I say this as MY OPINION from being an STI owner and owning the EVO for a year and half. I also have the 6 speed MR and not the SE 5 speed.
Clutches are also an issue on EVOs... test drive this EVO and pay attention to the gears on it not grinding as you shift.
Good luck and yes the KBB and NADA are your friends but its good that this is a Mom and Pop dealer and not a Mitsu because they would be asking for like 27k if it was...
Mitsu dealerships are a complete rip off when it comes to everything and I think its a huge factor why alot of people initially look into an EVO and buy a Suby instead.
any other questions just ask but sounds like you found a clean EVO. Good
luck
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Originally Posted by Astro_Train
The STi has the stronger tranny, the EVO has the stronger motor... I say this as MY OPINION from being an STI owner and owning the EVO for a year and half. I also have the 6 speed MR and not the SE 5 speed.
If you aren't planning on running the 6 speed in HPDE events and just want to drive the car normally or spirited, you should be fine. I would also like to point out that there are several MR evos with built motors and stock 6 speed transmissions that have no issues on this forum.
Not sure where you got your info, but there are 10 second Evos running the stock transmission. Stock transmission and stock bottom end can handle up to 500hp if tuned and driven properly.
The 5 speed transmission is in the RS and the GSR models, "SE" has nothing to do with the transmission. The issue with the 6 speed transmission is 4th gear and the amount of heat tracking the car will generate.
If you aren't planning on running the 6 speed in HPDE events and just want to drive the car normally or spirited, you should be fine. I would also like to point out that there are several MR evos with built motors and stock 6 speed transmissions that have no issues on this forum.
The 5 speed transmission is in the RS and the GSR models, "SE" has nothing to do with the transmission. The issue with the 6 speed transmission is 4th gear and the amount of heat tracking the car will generate.
If you aren't planning on running the 6 speed in HPDE events and just want to drive the car normally or spirited, you should be fine. I would also like to point out that there are several MR evos with built motors and stock 6 speed transmissions that have no issues on this forum.
I was referring to the SE MRs... they came with 5 speeds trannys... and all GSRs are 5 speeds I know. The OP is looking at an MR non SE so its why I said SE. I made a comment on Trannys because he is coming from an STi, and people have almost ZERO issues with their Trannys as compared to EVOs. Yes there are several people putting down alot of power on stock EVO trannys, but you can't ignore the countless threads of clutch and tranny issues on EVOs.... I made a comparison as he is coming from an STI which is what I had before the EVO and I spent a alot of time that forum and Subaru trannys are solid. I realize the human and idiot factor effect in people abusing their cars also comes into place and he is buying a used car.
The SE is an appearance package from Mitsubishi. Dealerships almost always incorrectly list them as simply 'SE', which made it pretty hard for me to track down my GSR SE.
"Is that a six speed or a five speed?"
"Hold on... It's a six speed."
"Oh, thanks. Bye!"
Originally Posted by Astro_Train
Yes there are several people putting down alot of power on stock EVO trannys, but you can't ignore the countless threads of clutch and tranny issues on EVOs....
I did countless research when I was selling my last car and getting ready to pick-up an Evo. I knew I was going to track my car, so I decided to shy away from the 6 speed. I looked at what clutches people were having issues with (i.e. ACT), what power people were putting down, when they picked up a Shepherd Transmission and why, ad nauseum.
My point is to simply point out that the transmission isn't glass as people want to spread as misinformation.
Originally Posted by Astro_Train
I realize the human and idiot factor effect in people abusing their cars also comes into place and he is buying a used car.
My apologies, I listed the SE as an appearance package which was incorrect:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/03/f...-evolution-se/
I will still say that the MR SE was a 6 speed, what I experienced wasn't fabricated.
Mitsubishi has introduced the 2006 Lancer Evolution "Special Edition" (MR model shown above) as the final iteration of the Evo IX before the long awaited Evo X replaces it. The Evolution SE will ride the line out in style with red-stitched Recaro seats inside the cabin and a host of exterior enhancements. The Evolution SE gets a new airdam extension up front that reduces front end lift and the same lightweight aluminum roof worn by the Evolution RS and MR. It rolls on 17-inch forged BBS wheels with a diamond black finish and illuminates the road ahead with a set of HID headlights. The price of the Evolution SE will start at $33,249, which places it neatly above the standard Evo IX and below the range-topping MR.
Press Release:
Thrilling Visual and Performance Enhancements at an Excellent Value Distinguish 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution SE
July 31, 2006 -- CYPRESS, Calif. --
Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA) is applying the "Special Edition"; treatment to its critically acclaimed ninth-generation Lancer Evolution. The 2006 Lancer Evolution SE offers special features at a competitive price of $33,249 MSRP to make this legendary performance vehicle even more thrilling. The new SE trim level represents the final enhancement to a Lancer Evolution body style that has been on sale in the U.S. market since 2003.
Inside the Special Edition trim level, supportive, red-stitched RECARO(R) seats accentuate the interior while the exterior receives a new front airdam extension that adds style while reducing front end lift. A lightweight aluminum roof panel, also found on the Lancer Evolution RS and MR, helps control body roll by lowering the vehicle's center of gravity. The feather weight 17"; forged BBS(R) alloy wheels, now in a new "Diamond Black"; finish, add style while reducing unsprung weight to improve suspension performance. The SE trim level also includes high-intensity discharge (HID) headlights with halogen fog lamps giving the vehicle a distinctive look. The available exterior color choices for the Lancer Evolution SE are Apex Silver, Graphite Gray and Tarmac Black.
True to the Lancer Evolution's heritage, the SE is powered by a 2.0-liter inline four-cylinder DOHC intercooled-turbocharged engine with Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and Electronic Control (MIVEC) that is mated to a rugged 5-speed transmission.
The revised airdam, Recaro(R) seats with red stitching, and forged BBS(R) wheels with "Diamond Black"; finish are available on the MR trim level as well in the form of an Appearance Package which sells for $500.00.
Press Release:
Thrilling Visual and Performance Enhancements at an Excellent Value Distinguish 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution SE
July 31, 2006 -- CYPRESS, Calif. --
Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA) is applying the "Special Edition"; treatment to its critically acclaimed ninth-generation Lancer Evolution. The 2006 Lancer Evolution SE offers special features at a competitive price of $33,249 MSRP to make this legendary performance vehicle even more thrilling. The new SE trim level represents the final enhancement to a Lancer Evolution body style that has been on sale in the U.S. market since 2003.
Inside the Special Edition trim level, supportive, red-stitched RECARO(R) seats accentuate the interior while the exterior receives a new front airdam extension that adds style while reducing front end lift. A lightweight aluminum roof panel, also found on the Lancer Evolution RS and MR, helps control body roll by lowering the vehicle's center of gravity. The feather weight 17"; forged BBS(R) alloy wheels, now in a new "Diamond Black"; finish, add style while reducing unsprung weight to improve suspension performance. The SE trim level also includes high-intensity discharge (HID) headlights with halogen fog lamps giving the vehicle a distinctive look. The available exterior color choices for the Lancer Evolution SE are Apex Silver, Graphite Gray and Tarmac Black.
True to the Lancer Evolution's heritage, the SE is powered by a 2.0-liter inline four-cylinder DOHC intercooled-turbocharged engine with Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and Electronic Control (MIVEC) that is mated to a rugged 5-speed transmission.
The revised airdam, Recaro(R) seats with red stitching, and forged BBS(R) wheels with "Diamond Black"; finish are available on the MR trim level as well in the form of an Appearance Package which sells for $500.00.
I will still say that the MR SE was a 6 speed, what I experienced wasn't fabricated.
my point was stock clutch/tranny with added wheel horsepower. You just contradicted yourself.... which clutch.. you said yourself lol... Not making an argument man..
I didn't say, "Evos have glasslike transmissions" I heard this before and I don't like it either.
and I was right on the SEs... I know, I did my research as I wanted an SE all along.
to OP, do some research if you need to, plenty of threads here for you to read but it sounds like you found a low mileage EVO which is a good start.
I didn't say, "Evos have glasslike transmissions" I heard this before and I don't like it either.
and I was right on the SEs... I know, I did my research as I wanted an SE all along.
to OP, do some research if you need to, plenty of threads here for you to read but it sounds like you found a low mileage EVO which is a good start.
not so worried about the 6spd. If i get crazy shep says $2450 gets me a built 5spd and conversion kit.
So get the evo now or wait till the sti sells?
Also thanks for the input
So get the evo now or wait till the sti sells?
Also thanks for the input
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To answer the origninal question, I would go for the EVO I had an sti for two years loved it until i drove the EVO IX. You will see how much better the handling and power is.
The previous advice is good, check the tranny (transfer case and synchros) and feel out the clutch.
Do remember that many EVOs have the warranty, call mitsubishi with the vin, they can tell you if the car made its scheduled visits.
You should be able to get an MR for 23,500. If it is a Dealer feel free to low ball, they want the car sold, so they will work with you. I bought from a dealer 4k under asking price...
Good Luck
The previous advice is good, check the tranny (transfer case and synchros) and feel out the clutch.
Do remember that many EVOs have the warranty, call mitsubishi with the vin, they can tell you if the car made its scheduled visits.
You should be able to get an MR for 23,500. If it is a Dealer feel free to low ball, they want the car sold, so they will work with you. I bought from a dealer 4k under asking price...
Good Luck