Hi all. I have been a fan of the 4g63t motor all of my life. I was sad to see it be De-commissioned, after all it was one of the most tested and true motors. So when the new 4b11 came out, I was like I'm never buying a EvoX, but it has started to grow on me. Now, I'm in a dilemna. Theres a WRB WRX limited at a Subaru dealership near my house with only 10k miles. This thing is fully loaded. It's listed at 29.9k, so with taxes it'd be 31 and change, they won't budge on the price due to supply(it's the only one within 50 miles and it comes with HID's, which I need, because regular halogens don't do it for me at night) I looked up EvoX within my area and there are like a handful of 2011's and 2012's, so I guess they are not moving that well. So is it possible to get them to budge on the price by a lot?(Supply and demand. If you have an excess of something, you lower the price until the excess is eliminated) I know the base GSR's don't come with HID's, and I don't really need the sound part. Also, what does the stock exhaust sound like? From the videos I've seen, it sounds like my former fit. Barely any sound. When I drove the Wrx, you definitely knew it was a wrx. You heard that boxer rumble noticeably. Sorry for the huge block of text.

 

You can probably save $3k-$5k going with the WRX but I say drive both and that'll help with your decision.

 

Ok, so the slightly used wrx is out of the equation. Although I loved it, I am iffy when it comes to used cars, especially turbo'd ones. I've had a couple in the past and they all had issues, so I am hesitant to buy another used one. There are a few (like 8) 2011 GSR's at this one dealership by me, Route 46 Mitsubishi. They had it a couple with the SS package at 37k, but with the 2011 rebate, they slashed it down to 35 and some change. Can I get it down any lower? Perhaps down to 32 or 33? Anyone have experience with this dealership? I go by the law of supply and demand, as a economics graduate, and since they have 8 GSR's from 2011 and they are not moving, technically, the price should be reduced until the excess amount is gone, especially since they have a handful of 2012's as well.

 

Evo IMO, but it really depends on your needs & the purpose of the car. I recently drove my friends '11 WRX wagon & although it's packaged very well, I found it's performance to be lacking.

I try to avoid dealerships when purchasing vehicles. I'm sure you can find an Evo X locally & ask to take it to a shop of your choice to get inspected. You'll find that you can end up saving yourself thousands.

 

I have the Consumer Report Car Pricing Service report for the 2012 Evolution, here is a quick breakdown of the 2012 X with Sight and Sound package:

Base MSRP: $34,495
SS Package: $2,100
Destination: $795
Total MSRP: $37,390

Total Dealer Invoice: $35,703
Dealer Holdbacks: $690

Total Actual Dealer Cost for Car: $35,013

So, if the dealer is desperate to get rid of the vehicle and take NO loss, then the rock bottom price would be $35,013. I would guess that $35K and some change is about the best you can do.

Are you financing from the dealer? If so make sure you have them show you the bank offer in writing. Often times dealers will give you a good price, run your financing, then tack on an additional 2% for themselves. It's legal and they won't bother to tell you they are doing it, but they can make $2,000-$3,000 or more over the life of the loan depending on the price of the car and length of the loan.

On a side note if you want a more precise idea of what they dealer actually paid, just ask to see the dealer invoice and subtract $690 for dealer holdbacks (GSR) or $754 (MR).

 

So, that's the invoice pricing for the 2012 with SS? I can definitely get better than that on the '11's then theoretically correct?

 

Honestly, you might be able to do a bit better, but I wouldn't count on it too much. Dealers still have to make something. If the car is brand new (0 miles) then they probably aren't willing to take a loss on the car.

Like I said, best bet, see what the dealer invoice is for the car. That's pretty much gonna be your bottom line. That gives the dealer $690 profit for a GSR or $754 profit for an MR (those are the dealer holdback costs for the car). Some dealers will go a few dollars below invoice.

If the dealer isn't willing to show you the dealer invoice, walk away.

Just don't forget to have them show you the financing offer from the bank if you finance through them. No sense in haggling for a good price just to get screwed on the financing. If they won't show you the bank offer walk away.

 

So I went and test drove the Evo GSR, 5speed of course. Wow, just wow. The clutch and shifter is 10x better than the wrx. It handles better. I took it to 7k, and the power delivery is amazing for a tank. Recaro's feel much more better. They wanted 33 and some change for the base GSR and 35k flat for the SS. Are these relatively good prices? Should I wait around til around the end of the month to see if I can get a better deal?

 

I now found that at another dealership is selling base GSR's for 32k and change. So I know that I can definitely get better on the 2011 GSR's. At least maybe 30 k on 2011 base and 32k on 2011 SS.

 

There are indeed several used 2011's on cars.com for around $30K, so it can be done. Good luck with the purchase.