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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 03:25 AM
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noob here! need help rota grid rims

ok guys so I'm looking to get 18x9.5 rota grids for my newly purchased evo8! my question is will the fitment be ok with 285 35 tires? I have stock ride height right now but i plan on doing bilstein HD struts with swift spec-r springs.any info will help, thanks!
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 05:43 AM
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Need the wheel offset to determine fit

But, Any 285 will require some rear fender treatment
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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Need the wheel offset to determine fit

But, Any 285 will require some rear fender treatment
I'm sorry i meant 275 35 with a +35 offset
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:17 AM
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Ran your no.s on the calc.

275/35 18x9.5 +35

You will need significant rear fender work. (roll, slight pull & possible rear bumper bolt relocate). Very doable as a lot us run wide tires

Fronts you will not have to work. Likely some liner rub at lock positions

Opinion based on running stock rear camber
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 03:02 AM
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Ran your no.s on the calc.

275/35 18x9.5 +35

You will need significant rear fender work. (roll, slight pull & possible rear bumper bolt relocate). Very doable as a lot us run wide tires

Fronts you will not have to work. Likely some liner rub at lock positions

Opinion based on running stock rear camber
Hmm I see. Well I've been doing some research constantly, I have nothing else better to do at night while I'm over here in Afghanistan lol. I really don't want to have to roll or pull fenders. It looks like 255 35 would be the best option for my case? Do you think I could get away with a 265 35?
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 07:01 AM
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Hmm I see. Well I've been doing some research constantly, I have nothing else better to do at night while I'm over here in Afghanistan lol. I really don't want to have to roll or pull fenders. It looks like 255 35 would be the best option for my case? Do you think I could get away with a 265 35?
255/35 would be your best option for a no pull rear fender. Rolling is still likely on the 255. I feel the 265 is still close to needing more than a roll

You have to roll the rear fender to run a shallower than stock offset & the wider rubber / 255 and above

Again, this is running stockish rear camber. We dont recommend adding camber to make tires fit.

Be great to get you guys back home ASAP. Stay safe!
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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255/35 would be your best option for a no pull rear fender. Rolling is still likely on the 255. I feel the 265 is still close to needing more than a roll

You have to roll the rear fender to run a shallower than stock offset & the wider rubber / 255 and above

Again, this is running stockish rear camber. We dont recommend adding camber to make tires fit.

Be great to get you guys back home ASAP. Stay safe!
thanks for all the info man, i really appreciate it! it seems like 255 35 is more for me! i do not mind having to roll the rear fenders a little bit. even with the 255 i would have to change the camber?
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:40 AM
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thanks for all the info man, i really appreciate it! it seems like 255 35 is more for me! i do not mind having to roll the rear fenders a little bit. even with the 255 i would have to change the camber?
Unless youre tracking the car, leave the rear camber stock. Some guys will add in a lot of rear camber to get tires to fit which is not the way to do it
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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Unless youre tracking the car, leave the rear camber stock. Some guys will add in a lot of rear camber to get tires to fit which is not the way to do it
again thank you so much man, I'm very new to the evo still. I'm just coming from the honda scene and things are a little different. what I'm looking for in a setup is function which is how i had my ep3 hatch. what do you think my best offset option would be for an aggressive function/street use setup? +25 or +35? im so sorry for all the questions man, but I'm the type that likes to do things right,and do things once.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by joeymass93
again thank you so much man, I'm very new to the evo still. I'm just coming from the honda scene and things are a little different. what I'm looking for in a setup is function which is how i had my ep3 hatch. what do you think my best offset option would be for an aggressive function/street use setup? +25 or +35? im so sorry for all the questions man, but I'm the type that likes to do things right,and do things once.
I believe the Grids only come in a +20 that will clear the Brembos up front. You may want to ask Wheeldude what clears the caliper. Also the face of the wheel will be different from a +35 to a +25... I know these came in +20 which clear the calipers up front without spacers.. but double check. Even with a 255/35 you will need some camber and maybe some fender work in the rear to avoid rubbing. There are plenty of people running this wheel. Check the aggressive wheel thread for Evo 8/9 here on the forum and you will get an idea what the wheel will look with the suspension you are trying to run ultimately.

here is the link to the aggressive wheel thread... put in grids under thread tools search... you will get over 10 returns of people running this wheel.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...el-thread.html

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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 10:37 AM
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I believe the Grids only come in a +20 that will clear the Brembos up front. You may want to ask Wheeldude what clears the caliper. Also the face of the wheel will be different from a +35 to a +25... I know these came in +20 which clear the calipers up front without spacers.. but double check. Even with a 255/35 you will need some camber and maybe some fender work in the rear to avoid rubbing. There are plenty of people running this wheel. Check the aggressive wheel thread for Evo 8/9 here on the forum and you will get an idea what the wheel will look with the suspension you are trying to run ultimately.

here is the link to the aggressive wheel thread... put in grids under thread tools search... you will get over 10 returns of people running this wheel.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...el-thread.html
ok so then if i run the 245 35 would i need to do camber work? I'm guessing that i will still need a slight roll.
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ok so then if i run the 245 35 would i need to do camber work? I'm guessing that i will still need a slight roll.
going down to a 245 is not needed... a 255/35 is your best option. And when I say camber, it is not necessary to run a ton of it. Since you are going to run Spec Rs, they don't dump the cars significantly. I recommend you take the car to a performance shop that works on Evos preferably although not totally required. Any spring you run will affect the camber on the car so running some negative camber isn't a bad thing. You can stay within a reasonable parameter... like -1.3 up front and .-09 / -1 in the rear for example. It is true, the less you run the better to save your tire wear, but regardless you want the car to handle properly so running some negative camber isn't the end of the world. Given that you are new to Evos that is why I recommend you take it to a shop that knows Evos when you are ready for an alignment. I do not recommend running a 245 because at this point you are stretching the tires and unless you are going strictly for form than stay away from them. A 255/35 is usually the norm here for a 9.5 wheel. Some folks prefer a 265. But that is another topic.

read that thread above I linked... look at some of these members posts, a lot of them post exactly what they did to run the set ups appropriately. If you want function then stay away from stretched tires as you are gimping yourself without the need to have to do it. I also say stay away from a taller tire... like a 245/40... this will force you to do fender work to prevent rubbing.

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Originally Posted by joeymass93
again thank you so much man, I'm very new to the evo still. I'm just coming from the honda scene and things are a little different. what I'm looking for in a setup is function which is how i had my ep3 hatch. what do you think my best offset option would be for an aggressive function/street use setup? +25 or +35? im so sorry for all the questions man, but I'm the type that likes to do things right,and do things once.

Based on your previous comments, you will better off w/the +35. If you run the +25 you will be needing the full rear fender treatment (roll, pull, bumper bolt relocate)

Just for reference, heres a pic of my ride in street wheel trim. Rota 17x9.5 +30 running 275/40 (my fenders required all of the above treatment & a few other tricks)

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Volk RE30 18x9.5 +22... -1.4 F -.1 R. Yoko S Drives 255/35. All four fenders rolled. No pulling... no rubbing even at full lock... and this is dumped on crappy TEIN springs. I sold the car but my plan was to upgrade to Swift Spec Rs.. They drop the car alot less so you will be fine if you stay at 30 and above. Find yourself a good shop that can do the rolling and alignment for you. If you want to play it more conservatively then go with +30 or higher. The only thing I will say is if you go conservative often times you wish later you went a bit more aggressive. +30 is a good offset balance between aggressive and conservative and often you don't need to worry about a ton of fender work. Here are a couple of pics of my old 8.



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Originally Posted by Astro_Train
Volk RE30 18x9.5 +22... -1.4 F -.1 R. Yoko S Drives 255/35. All four fenders rolled. No pulling... no rubbing even at full lock... and this is dumped on crappy TEIN springs. I sold the car but my plan was to upgrade to Swift
Not buying your fitment notes. Your spec rubs in the rear unless you dont compress the strut
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