I think you're wrong. I tried to find this info a while ago, and I can't find a single Evo 6 or earlier that has the ABS and Front LSD combined. There are RS models that do have the front lsd but no ABS. As I stated earlier, the ACD makes it work, so the GTA and Evo 7 are fine. Feel free to send me a link that proves me wrong, but I don't think you will.

EDIT: Looks like I'm wrong, according to this guide:
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_im...uyers_v3.0.pdf

maybe cost is the only reason. At least now I have no reason not to get the quaife...

 

will double check and get back to you.......

 

If I had it to do over.....

I think I'd get an RS and add back the Urban Jungle package. Isn't that the best/cheapest way to go???

Wonder if I could trade my 03 in on one if they aren't moving??

 

I love my RS as well. I like it better than the regular one and it is cheaper. You won't get attention from the cops with the wing gone, front lsd rules, and white is my favorite color Evo anyways. The only comfort item that I required when buying the car was a/c and they threw that in standard on all RS's. And to the guy who said the RS is a purpose built race car, have you ever seen a purpose built race car?

 

EBD = Electronic Brake-Force Distribution

 

wow lots of info. haha thanks everyone. yea i was planing on getting the MR but not really sure yet i mite just go wit the RS. oh yea im only 17 im gon turn 18 at march (parents buying me the car) lucky me

 

Not to get off-topic, but I think your parents are nuts.

My kid will have a severely underpowered pillow-mobile.

--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com

 

Does anyone know if the RS will be available for the 05 model year? I have an 01 Impreza 2.5 RS that I will be selling, and would like to get the Evo RS. I test drove a fully loaded Evo 8 and also an RS, and I must say I liked the RS a lot more. It's lighter, feels quicker, seems more solid with no sunroof, less little power options to give you trouble in the future... Ever since that test drive I have been constantly thinking about buying one! Right now I am thinking of going through the winter months with my Impreza and then picking up an RS when the weather turns nicer again. I'm just trying to see if the RS will be available around next spring when all the 05 models are out.

The MR looks awesome, but I just don't see it being worth all the extra $. If you want performance, it would almost make more sense to get an RS and modify it. I can see where people would choose the MR simply because you can leave it all stock and have the factory warranty, but it's just a matter of opinion really.

Thanks to everybody for the info. It's great hearing from owners of both cars and seeing how they feel about them!

-Trevor

 

Yes, RS will be back in 05, even better from what I read. Aluminum roof, thiner sheetmetal, ACD - in addition to 04 RS. Dunno about the pricing, probably similar to 04. See New model section of this forum...

my 04 RS rockz! don't miss all the pwr options. I never drove GSR version so i can't compare but RS fits the mean character of true Evo spirit. Oh yeah, it was 5K less than GSR. Paid 25k +tax, cheaper than a hundah accord!

and yes, it's like that hot chick that you met at a party - you can't stop dreaming about...hehehe

 

The RS will return in 05. However, it will reportedly come with AYC/ACD and ABS. I purchased an 04 RS because I haven't driven a car with ABS that I enjoy. Plus there are just sometimes when I NEED to have the wheels locked up to achieve my selected arc. The lawyers are just to powerfull in this country to allow a serious performance tuned ABS. Also, I am probably on the extreme in my tastes for daily driving performance. Plus I autocross it. I have no problem driving long distances in the RS with a pair of ear plugs. (I can still hear the sirens and other cars) The 04 model year RS's were supposed to have an option of adding back in the A/C and the other stuff. Called the Urban Jungle Package. (Should have called it the Safari Package in homage to the now missing Safari Rally where some teams just had to add A/C to keep the drivers sharp.) But Mitsubishi decided to make all the 04RS's the same, stripped but retaining A/C. It costs money (which Mitsu doesn't have) the further up stream in the production process that you differentiate models. So it was cheaper to put the A/C module in all US bound Evo's. The same is probably the reason for all the 05 Evo's getting the AYC/ACD.

The ABS on the 04RS is deleted based on the fact that it is not possible to control any one corner with the brakes without sending braking force to the opposite or any corner. Or just front braking to the rear. The PID control algorithms just can't make it happen right. Yes, in the AYC/ACD equiped models they can run ABS because the center differential can modulate (reduce/eliminate) the amount of torque transmitted between the front and the rear under braking. The AYC or yaw control system is basically a special program for the ABS that allows the EVO's to apply braking force through the tire(s) that will best achieve what the driver wants based on the steering wheel angle, torque input, and yaw velocity of the vehicle.

Folks can call my 04 RS the cheap stripper model all they want. I have one of the last homologation cars for world rally competition. And I love the feeling that my Kenmore White RS triple LS differentials give me on the tarmac or loose surfaces. I can't wait for winter. I feel lucky that I got my 04 RS since it has all the right features for ME! Though I must say I will miss the coolness of having the center diff suspend torque transfer when I pull the hand brake. Stuff of rally dreams arrives in 05!

I haven't researched the MR so I don't know what is different between the 05RS and the 05 MR. But from other posts it seems that the MR is slightly lighter and has a 6speed instead of the 5 speed. If your parents have that much money to burn then get the MR and tune to suit. LIghter is always better.

 

Ha ha.. RIP little man.

 

Hey instead of wishing this young man a nice time in heaven. I would recommend to you, endo, that you don't use more than half throttle and don't go over 4000 rpm for the first 1000 miles or 2000. It will allow a nice break in period for the engine and drivetrain and allow you some time to come to grips with AWD and the EVO's quick steering. After those weeks of break in. Get into the auto cross or track day scene around you. I strongly recommend that you go to an autocross before a track day and just get a feel for the car at its limits before you test them on the street or track. I personally don't like the SCCA autocross/soloII events because they take all day. Around here they have other groups that put on autocrosses that I can attend in 2 or 3 hours tops. Corvette club, Ford club, Alfa club, etc go online and look. But the SCCA will give you a more structured experience. I take my younger cousins to an autocross once they get their license and a car.


I am at 6000miles and I am still getting used to the amount of braking force that the tires can produce and the dynamics of the car at the edge. Seat time is all there is.

 

Actually, not totally right. AYC is a torque transfer system that does not use brake intervention to transfer power, instead it uses a system of wet clutches to progressively transfer power left right. The inputs are as you described, but the mechanism is different. It's closer to the ATTS torque transfer system on the prelude SH than any ABS based stability system. You're not the only guy in detroit who works for a car company

 

Cool, I couldn't find my documentation, lost it all sometime before last saturday. I made a poor guess. I do remember now that the documents spoke of applying power selectively. I can even see the graphic in my head. As you say, it can only occur with active clutch disks in the system.

 

oh man i cant wait to get my car. anyways i heard dat if mitsubishi find any kind of race damage or mods they will void the warranty. is this true. or is it just the part u changed. like if i change the springs and mitsubish finds it. they will just void the warranty for the springs.