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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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In the broad scope of things, what does your plant have to do with Mitsubishi Auto, their umbrella corp. and what they will debut at Detroit '07?
Very little if nothing.
Your contradictions and "awareness of what is going on around the Mitsu world" is just feeding the stereotype of clueless folk that work for dealers.
My "stereotype"...I see. You have no clue who I am, or what I do. I have owned probably more Mitsus than years you are old. Please don't tell me what I do and do not know. I worked for the Car Dealership company that sells most of the cars to the plant workers. So I get to talk to plant workers often. Not to mention that my Boss's uncle works there. Just in case...you want to see....it is called O'brien Mitsubishi out of Bloomington/Normal, IL(www.obrienteam.com) Also, I am not a salesperson. I am not some joe off the street that just wanted a sales job. That knows nothing about Mitsu and their product. I am very into what is going on with Mitsu as a company.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Petey Turbo
Sounds like the 4G11 wasn't working out, and mabye will be a 4g63 mivec EVO X tuned for over 300hp??
Do you mean 4B11T? From the article posted, how did you get that it isn't working out?

"The Lancer Evo will feature a more powerful version of its turbocharged MIVEC 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, with horsepower expected to top 300." -Inside Line

That quote doesn't suggest anything about issues w/ the 4B11T or the 4G63 being used in it's stead.

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Either way I don't like the idea of sharing the platform with the PT one bit
You're ok with the Evo sharing a chassis with the Lancer (a very pedestrian vehicle) but sharing a _platform_ with the PT Cruiser gives you pause? I'm sure Mitsu took into consideration their requirements for the Evo when working with Chrysler to develop the platform.

As the designer of the car said, they want to appeal to those that love the Evo line and those that might not have considered them previously.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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jesus. Mitsu gots plenty of money. They are a huge conglomerate that sells tons of different products, and has a pretty big market share in alot of those markets.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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MY GOD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!... people are acting like they are going to be assembling PT cruisers right next to evo.. can you say every single piece of that platform is going to be looked over by Dr. Evo...they will stiffen the entire thing as needed.. make improvements etc. Meanwhile the reduction in cost will go towards making it a better car instead of turning the evo IX take 2. Face it.. evo X will be the best evo ever! untill the XI comes out... The evo IX is not that great when you consider the competition thats coming out over the next two years. The evo X will be able to compete with this new competition.



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Do you mean 4B11T? From the article posted, how did you get that it isn't working out?

"The Lancer Evo will feature a more powerful version of its turbocharged MIVEC 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, with horsepower expected to top 300." -Inside Line

That quote doesn't suggest anything about issues w/ the 4B11T or the 4G63 being used in it's stead.



You're ok with the Evo sharing a chassis with the Lancer (a very pedestrian vehicle) but sharing a _platform_ with the PT Cruiser gives you pause? I'm sure Mitsu took into consideration their requirements for the Evo when working with Chrysler to develop the platform.

As the designer of the car said, they want to appeal to those that love the Evo line and those that might not have considered them previously.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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MY GOD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!... people are acting like they are going to be assembling PT cruisers right next to evo.
Did you quote me to suggest that I am one of those who fits in this group?

I thought my post was pretty obvious in stating that this type of concern about the platform sharing was unfounded.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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I was actually in agreement with your later statements...



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Did you quote me to suggest that I am one of those who fits in this group?

I thought my post was pretty obvious in stating that this type of concern about the platform sharing was unfounded.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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is there a possibility that they may just further evolve the 4G63 into a true DOHC MIVEC with variable valve timing & lift on both the intake as well as exhaust camshafts?
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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jesus. Mitsu gots plenty of money. They are a huge conglomerate that sells tons of different products, and has a pretty big market share in alot of those markets.
Yes. Indeed Mitsu's not gonna go b/k anytime soon, but overall NA sales are not very impressive. Especially since they are relying on essentially one platform vehicle for the bulk of their sales or revenues. I'd say Mitsu better put out a whole line of desirable vehicles for the general public soon, or else they may very well pack up and end distribution here in NA. I really hope this doesn't happen, but we've seen all too many manufacturers close up shop here in NA.

Maybe the cross platform will help enhance their entire line to be desirable.... Whatever they need to do, I'd hope Mitsu takes care of business and re-establish a firmer footing and increase market shares.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich@Orbital
is there a possibility that they may just further evolve the 4G63 into a true DOHC MIVEC with variable valve timing & lift on both the intake as well as exhaust camshafts?
That would be great !

It would be good if they just keep and tweak the current MIVEC 4G63T
instead of the proposed 4B11T.

It's very possible the 4B11T will be the used instead of our beloved 4G63T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubi...Specifications
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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you all know its the same platform as the current dodge caliber and jeep compass. mitsu has been sharing platforms since the early 80's, its nothing new. but as far as what they are allowed to do with that platform is different. thats why the srt 4 caliber is fwd turbo and NOT awd turbo. it was in a pre-binding agreement.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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The only thing you could ever say bad about the 4g63 is that I believe the engine has already been pushed to its limits as far as keeping it a street legal, very drivable, reliable and warrantiable engine.. I mean, yeah its easy to add cams and all that, but the car really does not drive the same as a stock car and I dont believe it would sell very well to the general public like that.. plus it probably wouldnt pass smog.

Moving on to a modern engine that should be able to legally make more power will be nice even if there are growing pains at first.


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That would be great !

It would be good if they just keep and tweak the current MIVEC 4G63T
instead of the proposed 4B11T.

It's very possible the 4B11T will be the used instead of our beloved 4G63T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubi...Specifications
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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really... I guess that makes sense
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