Which Reflash to get?
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MB
Oh yeah, hes been tuning for 11 years, sorry
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Personally, from my very limited experience, the chain goes like this:
Self Tuned (cheapest, especally to repeat)>Custom Dyno Tune @ respected shop/tuner (e.g. Dyno flash's come-to-you tune) > Custom Road Tune @ respected shop/tuner (e.g. Sean Ivey's Road tune) > Custom Logged, self implemented flash (Jester, 4WS) > Generic map flash/Mail in flash > Stock
The funny thing is is...If you got the flash from each method and compared them all, I would bet they would all look very close to the same. Tuning strategies do vary, but they are like taking any of 300 roads to one destination. If from one tune to another you gained 3 H.P. or the car lasted another 40 miles, Whats really the big deal?
Self Tuned (cheapest, especally to repeat)>Custom Dyno Tune @ respected shop/tuner (e.g. Dyno flash's come-to-you tune) > Custom Road Tune @ respected shop/tuner (e.g. Sean Ivey's Road tune) > Custom Logged, self implemented flash (Jester, 4WS) > Generic map flash/Mail in flash > Stock
The funny thing is is...If you got the flash from each method and compared them all, I would bet they would all look very close to the same. Tuning strategies do vary, but they are like taking any of 300 roads to one destination. If from one tune to another you gained 3 H.P. or the car lasted another 40 miles, Whats really the big deal?
Last edited by Titanium; Apr 26, 2007 at 07:37 AM.
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I have tuned my car myself, knowledge gained from here and other forums, a wideband, logging with ECU+ and Mitsilogger.
I don't think you need 11 years of experience to come to the conclusion that a mass block of 7s, or the other points I mentioned are bad news.
I am glad your tune was the opposite of those I've seen.
MB
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Best thing to do is to go to a shop near you that can tune your car.
Dont beleive the hype along the lines of: "your local shop is not famous so they suck, go with somebody who's been doing it for 20 years and has flashed 3.5 million evos" That's a bunch of BS.
Dont beleive the hype along the lines of: "your local shop is not famous so they suck, go with somebody who's been doing it for 20 years and has flashed 3.5 million evos" That's a bunch of BS.
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^ I do agree with the above, and I do respect you burgers, I've read several of your well thought out posts
My point was that Instead of considering one company to be better than another, consider the method involved, including the "uniqueness" of the tune to YOUR car. If there is a company that consistantly features "poor" tuning, such as tunes that are "unsafe" it won't be long until the cat is out of the bag. the evidence that so many different opinions exist about the SAME vendors prooves that most are not all good or all bad.
As mentioned, I personally trust my car to myself.
My point was that Instead of considering one company to be better than another, consider the method involved, including the "uniqueness" of the tune to YOUR car. If there is a company that consistantly features "poor" tuning, such as tunes that are "unsafe" it won't be long until the cat is out of the bag. the evidence that so many different opinions exist about the SAME vendors prooves that most are not all good or all bad.
As mentioned, I personally trust my car to myself.
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^ I do agree with the above, and I do respect you burgers, I've read several of your well thought out posts
My point was that Instead of considering one company to be better than another, consider the method involved, including the "uniqueness" of the tune to YOUR car. If there is a company that consistantly features "poor" tuning, such as tunes that are "unsafe" it won't be long until the cat is out of the bag. the evidence that so many different opinions exist about the SAME vendors prooves that most are not all good or all bad.
As mentioned, I personally trust my car to myself.
My point was that Instead of considering one company to be better than another, consider the method involved, including the "uniqueness" of the tune to YOUR car. If there is a company that consistantly features "poor" tuning, such as tunes that are "unsafe" it won't be long until the cat is out of the bag. the evidence that so many different opinions exist about the SAME vendors prooves that most are not all good or all bad.
As mentioned, I personally trust my car to myself.
I suggested it be made a sticky, I wish I could find a "hats off to you" kind of smiley.
MB
my jestr flash had no 7 blocks, a safe low map(as in not close to the high maps), and lower values for boost cut compared to another very popular and experienced tuner on this site.
