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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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How many Black sets are you going to have?
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Can't remember who... maybe Al... posted a 4-6 whp difference... If you've ever had someone blip the throttle while you watched the OE hoses expand, you'd have no problem believing it. They expand pretty badly under boost.
Zeus: I finally thought to do this the other night when I was wrenching on the car a bit. I couldn't believe how much the hoses expanded. Too bad I think that silicone hose kits like this aren't AutoX stock legal.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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We will be receving about 10 kits later this week Yellwtypr.

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Zeus: I finally thought to do this the other night when I was wrenching on the car a bit. I couldn't believe how much the hoses expanded. Too bad I think that silicone hose kits like this aren't AutoX stock legal.
Actually I believe the stock rules allow replacement of hoses with silicone replacments, since these are the same size, shape and location as the stock hoses. The issue of performance equivalence is questionable, but I think you would be safe, unless you are planning on winning nationals or something. I doubt anyone would question it at a local event since the rules state it.
Section 13.10 J :
Silicone replacement hoses are permitted as alternate components, provided they meet the requirements of section 13.0 with regard to size, shape, location, and performance equivalence.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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What do you guys think would look better---Black hoses or Red hoses for a Red evo?
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Actually I believe the stock rules allow replacement of hoses with silicone replacments, since these are the same size, shape and location as the stock hoses. The issue of performance equivalence is questionable, but I think you would be safe, unless you are planning on winning nationals or something. I doubt anyone would question it at a local event since the rules state it.
Section 13.10 J :
Silicone replacement hoses are permitted as alternate components, provided they meet the requirements of section 13.0 with regard to size, shape, location, and performance equivalence.
Sweet...

Iodine23,

...told you it was bad... now it's easy to see how that could transfer to the dyno. You going to Tech Ridge the end of this month?
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Gruppe-S, please check your pm.
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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All pm's answered.

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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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Sports: Well if these do indeed dyno to more HP, then I'd think the "equivalent performance" could be called into play. Do we also know for sure if these things are really the same size/shape as stock? I did a search on the sccaforums and the hits I found about silicone were for the WRX and indicated they weren't the same sizeas stock. That was for the WRX, not the Evo, but it makes me wonder a bit... I agree with you, though, that I could probably get away with these at the local level. Nationals, probably not.

Zeus: I should be at Tech Ridge, yup.
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by iodine23
Sports: Well if these do indeed dyno to more HP, then I'd think the "equivalent performance" could be called into play. Do we also know for sure if these things are really the same size/shape as stock? I did a search on the sccaforums and the hits I found about silicone were for the WRX and indicated they weren't the same sizeas stock. That was for the WRX, not the Evo, but it makes me wonder a bit... I agree with you, though, that I could probably get away with these at the local level. Nationals, probably not.

Zeus: I should be at Tech Ridge, yup.
Looking at the kits, I'd say that they are "close enough" for local events... They are duplicates of the OE hoses...
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