Ok, so im buying the turbo, intercooler, and piping off of an evo8, so my dillema is when i look at my car the front bumper looks anarexic compared to the evo 8, so will that intercooler fit without modifying a bunch of stuff? The main reason why i am asking is because i can buy an evo8 front bumper in my color for 100 dollars (not yet sure if it fits straight on though) So, if anyone knows please speak up, i kinda haveta know by tomorrow. Also, does the evo 8 bumper bolt on? Thanks.

 

no evo 8 bumper will not bolt on without a lot of modification. go with the evo 7 bumper from accolade. i have seen someone else on this board do the same thing u r doing with the evo 8 intercooler and it can fit into the evo 7 bumper, prob some modifying, but not nealy as much as an evo 8 bumper would be.

 

The Evo bumper wont fit. The intercooler could* fit with some bumper modification. You will still be missing an exhaust manifold, intercooler piping fittings and most importantly some sort of engine manigment unit. The 2 cars are not the same at all, some peices can be adapted to fit with fabrication. I suggest you search the word "Turbo" in lancer general and start reading the countless amounts of threads of all the people who have went FI before you.

 

I have read countless threads, but not many people adress the clearence issue very well. As far as the intercooler and turbo compatability go, its not hard to adapt to use on the Lancer. People can peice them together on a lancer for 1500 bucks. Also, the intercooler even has threaded mounts on the lancer because the lancer and evo share the same radiator support/radiator clip. I have heard some people talk about having to cut the actual bumper just to fit the IC because there isnt much clearence, but its not very well explained. "The Evo bumper wont fit" This is what i really needed to know the most though, thanks.

 

its a manual? if so the intercooler and piping wil fit almost perfectly with little modification. the turbo will be interesting as u need to custom fab a turbo manifold or somehow get one from rrm, which i doubt will happen without atleast buying the tweeker kit. good luckkeep us posted

 

Just through the turbo/intercooler in your backseat and get a decal saying "Turbo Power"

 

^^ thats funny. Oh and of course its a manual, im not one for automatics (no fun). Last i read i need to buy some stainless steel headers for an evo8 and then buy a lancer exhaust flange to be frankensteined on. I am picking up the intercooler and turbo and associated piping tomorrow, and will get started most likely at a slow rate because of college starting up soon and going from 40 hrs of work a week to 25...but i will still be limping along at a pace.

 

Moved to turbo forum, just because I think you'll get more help there (here).

 

Thanks mod..ur probably right.

 

Well as far as the intercooler fitting in the lancer stock bumper, does it work? Or does there need to be some chopping of the metal?

 

The intercooler *will* fit behind the stock bumper, but you will need to cut away some of the inside of the bumper and it might stick out the bottom because its quite a tall intercooler, if not the intercooler, the piping will definately stick out the bottom of the stock bumper.

Also you need to either pick up a different wastegate actuator set to a lower pressure or weld the flapper shut and go for an external wastegate. The stock psi of the evo is like between 15 and 19psi or somethin like that, bye bye sad 4g94 engine with that pressure

You can use an evo manifold with the 4g94 flange welded on, other people on the board have done the same, look for the thread labeled 16gc turbo install or something like that. i forget what it is off the top of my head. The evo piping will fit 75 percent. The piping from the turbo outlet to the intercooler inlet fits as close as it can, the intercooler out to throttle body piping is close, but a little off. Also you either have to A) relocate the battery to the evo location and get a smaller battery, B) relocate the battery to the trunk, or C) custom fabricate an intake to use the stock or aftermarket evo intake. As for Fuel management as long as you run 7psi or below you can get away with the stock injectors and a 12:1fmu, anything above that and you need at least 370cc injectors and a piggyback. Good luck, dont let people on the board tell you you're stupid or it can't be done. Anything can be done if you are willing to spend the money or time to get it right. Be prepared for more problems than you expected though I installed my turbo a month ago and i'm still fabricating parts

 

^^ Good for you man, oh, and i have read the turbo thread a couple times, im wondering if i need a slim fan like he used, or if he just wanted it. Oh, and i heard that a walbro 255lph is absolutely needed, and evo injectors is good also. What do you know of that. I was planning on getting a Forge wastegate actuator, hopefully used, and a 5-7lbs spring. Thanks for the info/reinforcement. I wish forged pistons and rods werent so freeking expensive. Oh and btw, what exactly is a 12:1 fmu, thats one of the few things i have yet to fully understand, I know its fuel management...but what else.

 

it raises pressure of the fuel rail according to each boost you make, so every 1 pound of air / 12 fuel pressure would be raise!!

 

Yeah an FMU comes in different ratios (10:1, 12:1, 14:1 etc). It attaches inline to your fuel rail and attaches to a vaccum sorce. When it senses positive pressure it increases fuel pressure proportionatly. It is a cheap way to force more fuel through smaller injectors. Its crude but it seems to do that job. RRM uses it on their kits up to stage 2. You shouldnt go any higher than 7psi on an FMU however because at that point theres almost 120psi of fuel pressure at the rail which is pretty much the safe limit.

You will need to cut your stock fan in half and install a slim fan on the front of your radiator in a push design due to the fact that turbo will either A) get in the way, or B) melt the fan from the heat.

255lph walbro is an absolute necessity, however evo injectors are not. If you plan to up the boost past 7 just pick up some high impedance saturated 370cc injectors and some kind of piggy back controller, and ditch the fmu. Get it tuned and you're good to go. Without the tune you'll be running hella rich and run into sputtering and stalling issues. My opinion would be to get a forge spring at 6lbs. Get the car running properly on the fmu, work out all the kinks and double check everything at least once a week. Once the car has passed the initial reliability test then pick up a boost controller and bump the boost up to 7psi and once again keep an eye on everything and have fun with it. Then down the road get a wideband 02 sensor, some sort of fuel piggy back computer, and upgraded injectors, bump the boost up to 8 or 9psi, get a rock solid tune either at a shop, or if you feel confident do it yourself. Then pretty much enjoy that for as long as possible because higher than that will need internal upgrades if you want it to be safe.

And final note, bare minimum gauges for the turbo install are boost gauge, EGT gauge, and narrowband A/f. Keep the EGTs low, keep the narrowband on the green, and make sure you dont overboost. Good luck!

 

wow^^^ thanks so much for all the info, you just demolished most of my questions about that stuff. As far as that stuff is concerned i should be alright for now untill the install. What about exhaust, if i put in a high flow cat, or hollow the one i have out, would i be ok with stock untill i install a new one? Oh and at about 9 psi how much gain can i expect? thanks.