Alright so he told me something like that how were you guys reading boost since map reads vacuum and then not getting the check engine light to come on. He also said something about bypassing the map.

 

if you can return it. you dont need it. i never had my cel on my car even at 15psi for my map sensor.

as for bypassing the map id like to know....


josh

 

To this day I have never had a check engine light come on. We read boost using a boost gauge lol. It sounds like he is concerned about being able to tune the car after the install is done. Are you going to use euflash to tune?

 

The Lancer ROM is not able to read boost. You can be boosting 9 psi and it will only interpret the load as 120 or so. The Evo ROM, however, can interpret boost. It's all in the code. Lancers and Evo VIII's have the exact same MAP sensor. So if youre sticking with the stock ROM, you'll be tuning based on observed ECU load. If you switch to an Evo ROM, tuning is more robust and much easier to do.

 

I think he meant how our ECU reads boost which senate just explained that with a Lancer ROM it doesn't. So I told him what I got from you guys and he is going to try the stock map first and if there is no problem then I wont need a new map sensor. As far as running an EVO ROM, I'll have to switch all wiring and ECU to manual first and then I'd like to tune with ECUflash. Thanks.

 

I know I was just being a smartass sorry , I dont see why he would have any issues with the stock map. Sounds like all in all everything is going pretty good for ya so far.

 

All is going well so far but the main part has yet to come which is running the car with the turbo on. I dropped the car off at the shop today and expected to be ready in about two weeks since he doesn't work on the weekends (Saturday & Sunday). He will also do a mechanical tuning after the install and road test. Meanwhile here are some pictures in the memory of the old OZ and the soon to be born turbo OZ (exterior will remain pretty much the same but I like to think of it as a new car coming out of this project). The picture of the engine bay and the dyno chart is with all the cosmetic mods prior to going turbo.

 

Here is the latest on the installation of the turbo kit:

So we ordered a new intercooler, I believe the Mishimoto Z line because it is half the size of the evo 8 intercooler for better flow and efficiency as well as not requiring too much bumper modifications to make it fit like removing the crash bar. Another thing is that the outlets of the mishimoto intercooler is straight outwards allowing for ease when fitting the pipes.

The holes of the speedcorps manifold had to be re-drilled because they didn't line up properly with the turbo.

One of the bolt that came with the turbo had to be tapped.

RRM oil lines installation completed without any problems.

A piece of the turbo had to be shaved off so it can fit right in the bay without the inference of some other part that wouldn't allow it to fit.

The downpipe is being worked on. More update on that later.

Intercooler and piping are the next items on the list to go on.

Edit: Radiator fans have been taken out because there is no room with both of those behind the radiator for all the intercooler piping to fit. What will be tried though is that the fans being cut in half as individuals one of which will go in front and the other behind the radiator and if that doesn't work one/two aftermarket fan(s) will go in place of one or both of the stock.

Overall it's all going good because whatever problems have come up so far got resolved. The work done up to this point looks really solid so I'm happy about that. Finally here are some pictures to show for the progress made from Tuesday, September 21, 2010 which was the third day into the installation.

 

Got more update with installation progress pictures from day four on Thursday, September 23, 2010.

The downpipe solution was a mixture of the Lancer stock and Evo 8 downpipe put together. All the intercooler piping is done except the right side being mocked for now because trying to decide which way the intake pipe will go towards due to lack of space. So that and the fans need to go on still last time I checked on it. The intercooler is not Mishimoto, I was wrong about that. Besides those the fuel components are going in last like the fuel pump, fpr/fmu, injectors.

By Tuesday of this week the AFR and boost gauges will come in and that's when tuning begins. More on that later.

 

I had a question about the RRM Piggyback 02-06 Automatic. I have one of those right now pre-programmed by RRM for the NA motor but I am wondering if it can be re-programmed to setup with the turbo I have now. So in other words downloading a turbo map from RRM and using their controller software to flash it into the unit I already have. Is that possible?

 

I think I had asked this question and they said you could but it wouldn't be as beneficial as the turbo version of their piggy. I could be wrong tho... just shoot them an email and they usually get back real quick

 

they always say that to buy thier stuff, one of the dudes told me good luck on trying to flash your ecu because it impossible...

I think you can go into the map with a tactrix cable, but I can see them trying to void your warranty because you went into it your self....

basically if you dont change anything they can tune the car for you so you cant hold them reliable which makes sense in a way, I would call RRM and double check before touching anything

 

If you mean "go into the map with a tactrix" if you are talking about the piggy, I doubt that is the case. The options are to tune the piggy with their software or to remove the piggy and use something else (ie tactrix cable)

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/s...ecb845f17c03aa

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/Piggytech.htm

 

Ya I called RRM to ask about that and they told me the two units were completely different and the one I have is meant for NA only. Also that it can only adjust fuel while the turbo version can adjust fuel, timing and ignition along with other things that he did not mention.

Anyways my turbo setup is complete. I will post videos soon.
Here are few known facts relating to the parts used:

1. Boost is set at 7 PSI maximum
2. WRX 440 injectors alone are doing the work for delivering enough fuel (No upgraded fuel pump, FPR/FMU of any kind are being used)
3. The computer itself is untuned/using the stock map without a piggyback/EMS but the turbo kit is mechanically tuned.
4. Stock fans were cut in half into two separate ones, one mounted in front and the other behind radiator
5. Downpipe is a mixture of the stock Lancer and Evo 8 downpipes
6. JDM Brand Intercooler used is half the size of the Evo 8 intercooler in terms of height requiring almost no modification of the bumper (I believe it's from AdvancedJDMParts.com, have to recheck)
7. Autometer AFR and STRI X-Line Boost Gauges
8. Downpipe was hitting the ground when going in driveways or high roads because of the angle coming down from the turbo and the shape so it had to be tucked up.
9. Two sets of intercooler piping were used as needed.
10. Turbo manifold is heat wrapped to prevent it from melting upper radiator hose and the carbon fiber hood.
11. Stock MAF and MAP sensors
12. More to come.

Recommended upgrade: Drilled/slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads for stopping power.

 

I like how the air filter goes straight down, but then again im using the stock evo 9 bov.