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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Question Turbo question...not for the squeemish

Ok like i said if you just ate lunch you might not want to read this. Most of you turbo and engine nuts are gonna drive yurselves nuts trying to figure this one out.

I came up with a way to drive a cheap turbo for an 02 lancer ES, in theory, so i need tech support on how this might work.

I work for a heavy equipment dealer, just so happens we got a Mitsubishi Excavator engine, complete with Turbo. a TD-06 17. COMPLETE. yeah and it fits in my car. One problem, the turbo is for a 6 cyclindar Diesel engine. Ok so me and my mechanice been coming up with a design on how to make this guy run without blowing the damn engine apart. and we discovered a flanging technique. to cut the air flow pipe in spots to where excess air can blow around inside the engine compartment. Yeah this is a real Frankenstien. We have yet to try it because my car is MY CAR!!.

Any suggestions as to how to approach this turbo? btw the company sold me the complete unit for $50. yeah if it works i got turbo for $50. anybody willing to try to answer this question?

oh yeah 2002 Lancer ES Automatic, and yes the automatic has the longest second gear in history, perfect for the unsuspecting 5 speeds.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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im so lost and confused on this post
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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go with something smaller. if it is too big your motor wont produce enough exhaust to even spool it. assuming it spools, and internally gated you may be able to get a new wastegate actuator for a lower level of boost. if the wastegate opening is too small you will not be able to keep it low enough so the boost will creep on you and you may not be able to go without over boosting. you could get an external gate that is big enough to let the exhaust bypass the turbo and give you your desired boost. once again assuming it will spool quick enough. my buddy has a t3/t4 on his 2.2 cavalier and it wont fully spool unless he is in third gear because he has to shift before it has time to spool. he doesn't overboost when it does spool because of the external gate. dont forget you need fuel mods like FMU and fuel pump, BOV, opt. Intercooler, and all the piping
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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sjl6102 knows his stuff and has the right idea. This sounds like a huge job that may not give you the performance you really want, or blow your engine to pieces. Remember, just because it says Mitsubishi on it, and it's a "turbo " does not mean it will work on your engine.

Sport Compact Car understands this erge. It's caused by a part of your brain called the "Medulla Badidea". Refer to June 2004 issue.

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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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i totally agree. it is a small turbo. small like that $4000 one at RRM. it is made to give boost to an excavator motor. BIG machines need turbo love too! but anyway this might shock the hell out of you but the engine number is 4g90. it is the same engine type. only runs on 6 cycl instead of 4. i can get pics and dimensions if you guys wanna see this little bad *** turbo. maybe RRM can give me dimension specs on the turbo they sell. it might also help that i can get turbos of all sizes and shapes. If this works lettting the Heavy Equip Power your Little Equip would be a new avenue of eexploration.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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That's a 20G! Even Boe will tell you, unless a lot of money investment or w/ NOS, the lancer can't put enough exhaust to power that sucker.

A Big 16G is placed on the modern Evo. A 20G is about 1.5 steps bigger than that one. Yes, there is a 18G floating in the market, but I don't know which car uses it. What's bigger than a 20G, a 25G!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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That engine can't be a 4G90. the first digit in Mitsubishi engine codes is the cylinder count. It would have to be 6G** or some kind of crazy extra special application motor that we shouldn't be talking about on this forum

A lot of the Mitsubishi heavy equipment that used 6 cylinders had the 6G72 block like the 3000GT, some Dodge Caravans and a few others.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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the Turbo P/N is TD-06 17C. as soon as my cell recharges i will post pics. The engine is like new, and yur right it isn't a car engine. It is an Excavator engine. Deisel. instead of it cannot be done can we try to get it done? i wanna know how, hence the squeemish part. this problem has been driving me nuts. I am willing to let it go, if someone can come up with a valid reason as to why this wouldn't work without a doubt.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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BTW i found Turbos on the net that cost around $1600 respectivly. heres the link.

http://www.prostreetonline.com/parts...or_turbo_kits/
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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A 20G is huge when you compare it to a T25 on the last site.

Here are the steps in Turbo

T20 (very small displacement motors) -> T25 (runs out of steam on the top end, but the G94 won't ever reach beyond 7.5K rpm) -> 14b -> small 16G -> Big 16G or Evo 16G (can't remember if they are the same or one is bigger than another) -> 18G -> 20G.

Look at the scale . . . are you going to put enough power to effectively use a 20G. If you don't have enough exhaust flow, you'll be laggy as heck.

Look on the net about DSMs w/ 20G. See how much HP that they are cranking at the wheel.

Don't take my word for granted . . . ask HK, Boe, Z-lancer, and a few others. Does a G94 have enough exhaust to flow a 20G, bigger than the stock Evo 8? Bolt-on TC stuff won't be enough to do it.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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what aboput a NOS application to make up for the lack of exhaust? Or an oxygen tank with activation to blow that through. Look I am creating a Monster, to be great is to be misunderstood. If this works, i will have all yur handles (screen names) air brushed on my car.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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try to go with a turbo you will realisticly be able to use. If you need a bigger turbo after you've tried the smaller ones then upgrade to the monster. instead of being set on trying to make the big turbo work, use something that is close to what you are flowing so you wont need NOS,etc. to make up for the massive lag. I think you might just want it because it is huge and would look cool. i can't blame ya.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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I really want it cuz It's $50, and it is from something other than a car. Most of my hoses are OEM PC400 Komatsu Excavator. i am turning my car into a Freek. It will look like a Lancer that has mod flair, but under the hood.......a carnival of suprises.

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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should be interesting
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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so i did a search for my turbo on the net. found this little graph. also found out that the Sum-Bicth Skyline uses this turbo. just so you don't have to scroll back up, this is a TD06-17C. It aint as big as you think.
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