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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Help: New Headunit with Ipod/Sirius

Well it's coming to Christmas time again and I was thinking of getting Sirius. But wanted to stay away from the FM transmitter ones. So then I was obviously thinking of a new headunit (I still have the stock one, '02 Lancer OZ). But then I found out my girlfriend was getting me an Ipod so then I was thinking about being able to hook that up to the new headunit as well.

So I can easily find headunits that fit the Lancer and are both Sirius and Ipod compatible.

Now I know that I'll need a Sirius tuner. But my question is with having that is it possible to use that tuner to hook up the Ipod? I see that most have capabilities "To Add Additional Products."


I tried researching on numerous websites but figured it would be better to ask on here since it's all Lancers. I'm leaning towards a Pioneer but am open to any suggestions. So does anyone have any similar setups? What's the easiest way to go about this without 2 tuners, tons of wires, etc.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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look for a unit that is sirius ready and has an aux. input. you will just need a wire to go from the input to the ipod...most of the Eclipse HU's have this.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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^^^I agree... You probably could get the iPod adapter from your stereo store or if you dare... radio shack. Some h/u's come with the iPod adapter in the box, Just do you homework.

I am getting the Pioneer AVH-P5700 this week for the touch screen, XM, and WMA compatability but I know it is Sirius and iPod Ready.
The wiring is not that bad for the XM reciever and the h/u should be close to plug and play. I have the XM tuner hooked up on the right side of the trunk and ran the one wire along the right side of the car under the trim. Really simple setup...I just followed the existing wires to the front and had extra wire. I would assume the Sirius setup would be similar. The iPod adaptor is extra hardware to get the going I think like 2 extra wires and the adapter. You should be able to hide this under the dash somewhere plenty of room, just use some 3M mounting tape.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kyden
Well it's coming to Christmas time again and I was thinking of getting Sirius. But wanted to stay away from the FM transmitter ones. So then I was obviously thinking of a new headunit (I still have the stock one, '02 Lancer OZ). But then I found out my girlfriend was getting me an Ipod so then I was thinking about being able to hook that up to the new headunit as well.

So I can easily find headunits that fit the Lancer and are both Sirius and Ipod compatible.

Now I know that I'll need a Sirius tuner. But my question is with having that is it possible to use that tuner to hook up the Ipod? I see that most have capabilities "To Add Additional Products."


I tried researching on numerous websites but figured it would be better to ask on here since it's all Lancers. I'm leaning towards a Pioneer but am open to any suggestions. So does anyone have any similar setups? What's the easiest way to go about this without 2 tuners, tons of wires, etc.
I have a Pioneer Premier deck AND the Pioneer iPod adapter. The iPod adapter hooks to the auxillary port in the back of the Pioneer deck. The iPod adapter also has ANOTHER auxillary port where you can hook up a cd changer, Sat radio tuner, or whatever else that can hook into the Pioneer auxillary port. Pioneer makes it so that you can add on...but you can add on more than one accessory.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LancerMarita
I have a Pioneer Premier deck AND the Pioneer iPod adapter. The iPod adapter hooks to the auxillary port in the back of the Pioneer deck. The iPod adapter also has ANOTHER auxillary port where you can hook up a cd changer, Sat radio tuner, or whatever else that can hook into the Pioneer auxillary port. Pioneer makes it so that you can add on...but you can add on more than one accessory.
Ok, that was another question of mine. If both take the Auxillary port. It's not neccesary that the ipod be controlled from the Headunit for me.

So my final question is from the Sirius tuner, what kind of jacks are on it. It says you can hook up the Ipod adapter to it, but I was wondering if I wouldn't do that and then I could just hook the ipod itself to it. Basically I don't want to spend $200 on 2 adapters if the Sirius one can do what I want it to do.

So in short, can you hook the Ipod to the Sirius with the "Ai-NET Pass-Through To Add Additional Alpine/Pioneer Products" without the large adapter to use it through the headunit?
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Is there a Sirius tuner made for Pioneer products?
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BatLancer
^^^I agree... You probably could get the iPod adapter from your stereo store or if you dare... radio shack. Some h/u's come with the iPod adapter in the box, Just do you homework.

I am getting the Pioneer AVH-P5700 this week for the touch screen, XM, and WMA compatability but I know it is Sirius and iPod Ready.
The wiring is not that bad for the XM reciever and the h/u should be close to plug and play. I have the XM tuner hooked up on the right side of the trunk and ran the one wire along the right side of the car under the trim. Really simple setup...I just followed the existing wires to the front and had extra wire. I would assume the Sirius setup would be similar. The iPod adaptor is extra hardware to get the going I think like 2 extra wires and the adapter. You should be able to hide this under the dash somewhere plenty of room, just use some 3M mounting tape.
I hid my Pioneer adapter under the center armrest. The box is right under the console compartment/ armrest, zip-tied to clear the e-brake cable, and I just have the wires strung through the shifting/ cupholder area. The install was really easy....just tap into the power and ground wires....it tells you which ones....and plug into the auxillary at the back of the headunit.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Also, you can do it the old school way and get the RCA cables.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Yes Pioneer has a sirius direct connect and a ipod interface the ipod interface connects to the sirius direct connect then the direct connect connect to the headunit via a ip bus cable. If im not mistaken Alpine and Kenwood have the same exact setups.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LancerMarita
Is there a Sirius tuner made for Pioneer products?
Yes. SIR-PNR1 - Features IP-bus input and output.
It also includes a IP-Bus Pass-Through.

The only adapter however I could find converts the IP-BUS output Satellite tuner into stereo RCA outputs.

This is confusing without it layed in front of me. So right now I'd have the tuner and the IP-Bus Pass through with RCA Outputs. I guess I'd need to get the Ipod hooked into the RCA outputs somehow?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kyden
Yes. SIR-PNR1 - Features IP-bus input and output.
It also includes a IP-Bus Pass-Through.

The only adapter however I could find converts the IP-BUS output Satellite tuner into stereo RCA outputs.

This is confusing without it layed in front of me. So right now I'd have the tuner and the IP-Bus Pass through with RCA Outputs. I guess I'd need to get the Ipod hooked into the RCA outputs somehow?
For the RCA outputs, there is a cable out there that converts that to a stereo plugin for devices such as the iPod and any other similar device. The only thing with that is you won't be able to control the iPod through the headunit....you will have to control it from the actual iPod. If you get the iPod adapter, you can plug it into the IP bus output from the Sirius tuner, and be able to control the iPod through the headunit.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Also, with the iPod adapter, you can charge the iPod at the same time. The adapter costs so much because it gives you the functionality of controlling it through the headunit and it charges, so you don't need an extra car charger for it.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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I guess my final question would be with all these adapters, what kind of sound quality loss can I expect? Basically is it too much to not even bother this way or should I be ok?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1099388622665

Check this one out. I'm getting this one today. It kind of matches our interior. Plus it's all ready for Sirus and iPod.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Just about all Pioneer head units since 2002, even the "XM ready" ones, will work with Sirius. I just installed the SIR-PNR1 onto my XM-ready DEH-P860MP and it works great, although it connects as an Aux device. I can still see track titles, etc.

These adapters use IP-bus, which is all digital, so there's absolutely no loss of signal quality no matter how many devices you chain onto your head unit.

So, go ahead and get the SIR-PNR1 Sirius tuner and the CD-IB100 iPod adapter.
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