I just recently replaced my stock deck with Pioneer DEH-P80MP. This deck can be switched between 40w with 20 RMS (or something) to 60w with 27w RMS. I was told that my stock speakers won't last if I use the 60W settings. I really want to try the 60W settings.

Would this be a good speaker replacement for front speakers? WIll they fit?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-rgBdFFh...SA1661&o=m&a=0

My Workmate is selling these speakers to me for $30 CAD. Are they good.

Will the rear speakers be necessary to replace as well? Thanks!

 

Are they good? Well depends on what you are comparing it to. I work at a car audio shop, and I honestly do not like them. But for 30 bucks, why not?
Oh, and 7 watts isnt a huge deal, so I would not worry too much about it.

 

At the distortion levels that is measured at it is worthless. You won't get 20 watts listening to music.

 

Always go by the RMS ratings for power. I agree with Bill on this one, pushing more power through a crappy H.U. amp is only gonna yield more distortion %. Just hold out for an external amp and better speakers down the line.

 

and yes, using the 60 watt setting wont hurt anything, i dont know who told you that

unless of course you like to turn it up all the way until you cant hear anything and you hear the speaker pop

 

thanks for the input guys. Will there be any sound difference if I change the stock speakers with this one?

 

there should be a huge difference, although the mitsu speakers are better than most stock speakers, there's a huge difference between stock and even low end aftermarket

 

Theyare sweet *** speakers to use I have used them over and over in project and they give really great sound especially when they are reversed. If your going to change the front change the rear at the same time but stop to really think about what ur sound wants are because you wouldnt want to have to change speakers out after you put a set in. When I mean sound wants Im talking high's, mids, voice, mid bass, and bass.

 

What do you mean buy "specially when they are reversed"?

Will these set boost my high's? That's what really i'm after but the stock speakers are still not enough for me. I know that tweeters will give more highs but I don't really want to install tweeters. Can anyone recommend me a speaker with tweeters built in. thanks

 

And aftermarket speaker (other than a dual cone or component set) have a built in tweeter. What you might be more interested in is a set of 3 or 4 ways in the front, and 2 or 3 ways in the rear. The setup I was running in my Suzuki was a set of Pioneer 4-ways in the front, and Pioneer 3-ways in the rear with a single 12" sub in a sealed box. Sounded awesome, considering I have about $500 in it total including the headunit (which was about $250 of that).

All depends on what you are going for in the end. What is you current sound lacking?

You already said not enough highs. What you should do is get in the car, not even driving; turn on a cd that you are very familiar with and then just listen to it at normal listening levels for about 10 minutes. Concentrate on the sound: How clear is it? What's there? What's missing? What is ok right now, but could use improvement? Does is go loud enough without distorting? Can you feel the music? (I don't mean like bone rattling bass, just overall impact).

After you do that, make a list of you answers and give yourself a budget to work with for the entire stereo system. Break it down to classes Headunit (I know you already have one, but count that in your budget as well), Speakers, Subs & Amps (if you want to get them). Allow about $100 of your total budget for installation parts if you are going to do it yourself. Add another $100 if you plan to have it done somewhere.

That will give you a good starting point to work with. After you get that done, post another message with your answers and budget and we will probably all have experience with different types of setups that should be within your range.

 

You dont need rear speakers unless you REALLy care about the listening experience of your rear seat passengers. Dont bother wasting the money on rear speakers, just put the extra bills into a better head unit and youll have a much better quality setup. Using just front speakers positioned correctly will yield a FAR superior soundstage, than using rear speakers as well. Think about it, when you go to a concert, do they play music from behind you as well as infront of you? No.
Using higher quality components up front is what you should focus on. You will have plenty of volume without rear speakers, so dont be worried about that. Ive run fronts only in all of my setups, and get complimented on the great sound quality that my systems put out.

 

"Rear fill" is the key phrase here. If they didn't matter, and didn't have any point, do you think the manufacturers would waste time and money designing them into a car? No.

The rear speakers don't give as much of the treble, nor do you want them to. They simply fill in the cabin of the car with sound. They are usually used to provide bass, or mid-bass.

Having only front speakers yield a very 2 dimensional sound. You get better immersion and impact with a 4-channel setup. Proper placement and imaging is a step towards a strong system, BUT you will be hard pressed to acheive that using factory mounting locations and coaxial type speakers. You could use a headunit that will allow for distance correction to give you better imaging, but most of those are very expensive and alot of patience (that most people don't have) to get the best out of them.

 

to tell you the truth, I just did that a week ago and I realize I'm lacking the crispiness of treble. I'm sutisfied with the mid and low bass right now. I want to hear the cispiness of the trebble without spending alot of money.

I'm also installing the speaker myself. And also my budget is under $100 CAD.

 

Doing a Coaxial in the door and still keeping the factory tweet will sound like ****. Do a seperate or don't replace the speakers. I still have factory speakers all the way around just because they actually do sound pretty decent with a Amp on them.

 

Actually, we have done a few setups at work where we put on a set of coaxials and left the factory tweeters. I was kind of weary when we started as well, but they actually sounded pretty good.

However, I don't believe that 5H3RW1N has factory tweeters, or he wouldn't be complaining much about not having crisp treble.

For that $100 you are going to run about $20-40 short of getting speakers worth even having (if you plan to get all 4). I'm not familiar with the Pioneers that your friend is selling you, or the way they sound. With them being the TS-A line, they are supposed to be better than the TS-G line. I used the TS-Gs in my Suzuki and was very happy with them. If you can get that set of speakers for $30, and there is nothing wrong with them, do it.

The setup that I would recommend with those, if you are replacing all 4:

1. Put them in the back with these in the front.

2. Put them in the front with these in the back.

Obviously the second choice will put you within budget, but will not sound quite as nice as the first.

You should be happy with either setup though, but try to find a store that sells them. Don't contribute to the big box/internet craze that is killing shops that can actually share this kind of knowledge with you.