Which sub do you guys think would be better. 2 12w7's or 2 audiobahn flame series subs? any info on either subs, ie power, sound quality, ease of installation, size of box would help me out a lot. thanks in advance

 

Both of those subs are terribly inefficient powerwise for such a small car. You would be much better off buying 3 tens.

 

Audiobahns are loud, but i dont know much on them.
The new jls are top notch, expensive, but good sound and loud.


Best way to know is try them out yourself.

 

The question is what type of system are you trying to build. spl or sq or a mixture of the two.

go to jl's website for info on the w7.

I went to audiobahn's website and couldnt find anything about a flame series.

and why 2 12s. why not one. how much power are you going to give the subs? how much of the trunk are you willing to lose? are you going to build a wall? do you want to go sealed or ported? too many questions still need to be answered before you can get a good answer.

I kinda boast about my knowledge of car stereo and Ive never heard of the flame series of audiobahn. only the alumpro and some of their other models. thats about the only answer i can give you now other than jl gives all the info you should need about the w7 on their site.

test them both if you can and choose which one you like best. everyone will have a different opinion.

 

alright guys, thanks for the input, im really just planning my system out right now. i dont know exactly what im going to do, maybe 2 10's might be better, well, we'll see. I wanted to put a custom box in between my rear seats and the trunk with the back of the speakers towards the front of the car. well, im not sure what im going to do but thanks anyways heh

 

As I've said elsewhere I've owned and broken a W7. The sub is worthwhile but it like all high-output speakers is not meant to stand alone thusly why you would need 2(at least). Also while you get unparalleled SQL from the W7 and almost all other high excursion subwoofers you totally lose all bass above 60HZ which renders the speaker useless to you unless you play pure Bass music under which the speaker's performance still suffers on certain songs. IMO I would not buy either one of these speakers. They are overly expensive and inefficient at outputting audible frequencies.

 

I finally looked at my crutchfield magazine today and they have the flame series in it. boy that 1w=95 db is really inefficient. small box sizes too.

if you are going with a small amp(less than 1000 watts rms) go with the flame series. if you are going with a bigger amp go with the w7. just cause they can take it.

keep in mind that i have never heard or seen the flame series.

Do what you want. if it makes you happy then that is all that matters

 

Did you not read what I posted? Or did you read and just not understand? Ok here we go I'll elaborate further.

A single 12W7 running on an RFBD1500.1 will draw enough amps from the alternator and battery to almost cut off a Lancer. Running any high output amplifier to a subwoofer thats worth anything at 300Watts RMS and Up will be inefficient. Why is it inefficient? Because the car cannot output enough amps to feed the audio signal. Also the W7 and the Audiobahn are High Excursion subwoofers. I don't know how many high output/high excursion subwoofers you've owned but I've owned a lot of them and I'll tell you they are ineffcient as hell when it comes to producing Fz above 60hz as a matter of fact even with EQ settings and forced boost at 100Hz up to 20Db with a wide signal bandwidth I couldn't get a single sub to produce these Fz that to me is ineffcient for cost and use plain and simple. I'm not trying to flame you but trust me I know what I'm talking about I deal heavily in subwoofers and, as far as the Lancer goes I've put almost everything in this car, so believe me when I say it does best with 3 10's 250-300 Watts(RMS)

 

tiger. i was talking about the flame series sub not the w7. i stated before that i dont know that much about that sub and was just giving some info that i found. and since i doubt that crutchfield would lie then audiobahn must be lying about there specs.

and you didnt flame. your just trying to explain.

Since you own a lancer and I dont you just must have a little bit of more knowledge on what type of systems they can take. but generaly you can put any type of system in any car. the lancer cant be the most audio challenged car out there. There is ways to get around a small alternator you know.

I will argue with you that 3 tens will not be better than 2 12s. what if he want to compete for spl. 3 ten will put him in a different category depending on the competition.

I do respect your knowledge on systems but respect mine as well. ive spent way too much money on this hobby to not know a few things.

and let me edit my posts before you respond.

 

I was talking about them both. I respect yours but just reading your post it seemed as if you were talking out of the crutchfield mag and not from your own mouth nuff said though.

 

I own a pair of the Audio Bahn 1208 in my lancer I am running 2 1800 d class amps this is wired through a 10 farad cap and a deep cycle Marine batt my whole car is shaks it feels good to have the back seat folded down and your drivers seat is shaking the subs in crutchfield are the low grade flame baskets the higher grade handls 1500 watts rms they pound and pound hard they are sitting in a six cube box tunned to 35 herts they sound good at higher frequencies but the roof goes into waves when it drops i dont know about the w7 but the audio bahns hit.

 

No doubt the 12W7 hits it just doesn't play higher tones of bass like the kind you find in regular music. I have 410W3s positioned in the way I think I found to produce the most SPL and my Roof doesn't shake but my trunk sure does and so does my hood and my rear deck jumps about 1 inch and my windshield travels almost 1/2 an inch its pretty funny and I didn't even make custom boxes yet I also shakes cars next to me when I'm stopped on occasion.

 

I Have 2 JL W7's In my Lancer. They pound
but I had To renforce alot of things in the trunk so that the trunk door woudln't break open. Plus I had to add 4 monster caps so that all my power wouldn't drain. They Can handle 4,000 watts on a constet rate all day.
But with big power you gotta get big amps.
If you get them I recomend 2JL 1,000 Watt
amp so you get the max performence. It's big money. I got close to $12,000 into my stereomitsu:

 

You're on criznack. Do you have any SQ in the car?

 

Look dude i got two sony Xplode. 12inch with a 1500 watt kicker amp.
with 4 sony 6 1/2 compont speakers Xplode the quality is great. Sound is great no rattle. Just quality music....................