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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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4g63 swap

i thought about swaping my engine with the 4g63, good idea would the trans fit up to it
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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If you got a lot of money yeah it canbe done. The transmission would be one thing but u gotta remeber, if u gettin the engine from a evo or AWD Eclipse, it is AWD. Your car is not designed for all wheel drive. Cahngin out your drivetrain is going to cost a lot of money. Your might as well just go and put the money u were going to use the engine swap and hook up your car.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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get a mivec from the ralliart or 04+ galant or 04+ outlander
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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or i can get a 4g63 from a car that is fwd
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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from a non-turbo eclipse?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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I've been told that the transmission bolt pattern for cars with the 4G63 and the FWD transmission is the same, but I don't have any direct information on it.

The swap will be expensive, but I do know of one guy with a Galant (FWD transmission) who has bolted up the Evo7 block to his transmission.

I think motor mounts and electrical would be your biggest hurdle, everything else is just going to involve beefing up the driveline to withstand the stresses of the turbo evo engine...

I am planning on a Evo engine and driveline swap into a 97 mirage DE 2 door coupe, and have done some of the research, but if you want the AWD setup too, expect to pay a premium for components, and then spend lots of time and money fitting everything up.

Anything CAN be done, you just have to determine if its worthwhile, in my case I have easy access to the components, and the "Work" portion of it is free (My time and expertise)

I couldn't imagine paying someone else to do the work, its just hours and hours of research and fabrication..
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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You could always do a search! The bolt patterns don't match either. Do a search this has been talked about since I have been a member of this forum, way before the RRM kit, Rpw, and anything else was created. Run a search man. You will quickly realize it is not worth the cost.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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I wonder how hard it is to swap in a Eclipse GST motor into our car. Im sure it wouldnt cost as much as a full evo swap and the GST motor has 210-215 hp at the crank already.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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spiderr....gst motor is the 4g63...
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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I know that pal. All im saying or was trying to say is that everyones trying to get the EVO motor and AWD trans inside their lancer, why not the gst motor.Sorry for the confusion its hard for me to write exactly what im thinking and sometimes it doesnt come out right.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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here's a guy witha 89 Lancer/Mirage that dropped a 4g63 from an Eclipse and also the AWD, he also had to convert from Auto to Manual,
I know its not the same car/model year a what you are thinking but the guys said its pretty cheap to do... check it out and get some inspiration!
BTW, this guy did all this in his backyard.

http://www.lilevo.com/
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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Yeah I'm doing the same type of swap on a 97 Mirage..

Just so you are aware, the orientation of the Eclipse 4G63 is opposite to the EVO.. If you look at your engine bay, if the engine is toward the passenger side (the timing gear is on the passenger side of the car and the pullies are also on that side) Then the orientation of the EVO engine is best suited for the swap...

Although the Lancer tranny may not bolt up, you might be able to use a Galant tranny which apparently does... Like the previous poster said, this information is out there if you search for it. Most don't bother simply because of the expense or relative impracticality.

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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^what iwas gonna sayu about the eclipse engine not being able to work
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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wow wait... you saying if I had the money I can get the evo engine...
mount the galant tranny...
then boom I got the first 4g63 lancer???...
thats crazy talk!!!
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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^ yes if you had a lot of money
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